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SPACE OPERA: It will ROCK YOU IN THE FACE

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I understand why people didn't like Valente's refusal to completely condemn the person in question but I've seen a couple people now who were really put off her by it and I don't really understand why. Unless there was more to it but I've never seen or heard it. It's also pretty apparent reading her posts from around it that Valente herself was going through a bad time at the moment shit went down and that's gotta factor in how she reacted. 

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An author was harassed to the point where she tried to kill herself ON VALENETE'S OWN BLOG. And you should look up what this person she refused to complete condemn actually did, cause it's fucking horrible.

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14 minutes ago, Darth Richard II said:

An author was harassed to the point where she tried to kill herself ON VALENETE'S OWN BLOG. And you should look up what this person she refused to complete condemn actually did, cause it's fucking horrible.



I know what she did, but it's pretty clear Valente didn't know the extent of it. You can say that was wilful ignorance but again, she had her own issues going on. I don't know if she's spoken on it since, but she obviously isn't some RoH fangirl even from the stuff she posted then.

In fact at the moment the only thing I can find from her on the subject and (somewhat) defending RoH happens long before 'on damage done' and a month before the suicide attempt, has stuff been deleted that she's said since?

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I honestly don't know and this is really not the place to discuss it, I mean, I'm not a huge fan of her work to begin with and there are other small things she's done to rub me the wrong way over the years, but it's not to the point where I would, eh, actively boycott her cause she funds groups that execute homosexuals(ORSON SCOTT CARD) or anything.

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20 hours ago, Darth Richard II said:

I find your ideas intriguing and what like to subscribe to your newsletter.

(I do not like Valente much as a writer or a person, but I digress)

 

Fandom norms have changed a lot since those LJ days, but Valente was one of the first fandom people I can think of who actively monetized access to her non-professionally published fiction (through Omikuji Project) as well as generally selling access to her online self as the authentic author at work, engaged with her public, "anchorite of the internet".  Patreon didn't exist at the time, and asking for money within fandom was a lot more fraught than it's come to be now, for a variety of reasons.  And Omikuji was messy as all get out--things didn't come out on time, people never got things, and much of the time the unique fiction readers were signed up for was stuff she'd already sold professionally and would be coming out that way.  So you generate a cult of personality fandom, you get judged in part by how you act, and if you mobilize your fandom to abuse a travel agency because you didn't get the right visa?  It's the kind of thing people remember.

 

If this is OT/against forum rules, I'll delete.

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I don't think it's against the rules as long as you don't bring up other forums drama. The RoH thing is just s sore spot still.

ive never heard of this visa incident though. And I will say hardcore fans of Valente can be scary.

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Yeah looking over that it's probably not a good idea to sick your fans on a company, uh, ever. Particularly if it's because you screwed up cause you have no common sense.

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Perhaps the discussion of the author's media strategy and the like should get its own thread?

I'm a little over halfway through Space Opera (it's not that long) and here are a few brief thoughts: I agree with Kalbear in that the book is funny, absurdist and weird. It is written in a style that, to the best of my knowledge, is fairly unique -- you might love it or you might hate it (I'm pretty neutral), but I've never read anything quite like it. I'll withhold my thoughts on the overall quality until I finish reading.

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21 hours ago, RedEyedGhost said:

Ah yes, the River Oaks Hospital fiasco.  How could we ever forget that?

OMG.   I choked.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  :rofl:

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