Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 If someone reveals the truth about Dunk's knighthood how will it affect story? For example, Manfred Dondarrion visits Jena, wife of Prince Baelor in Red Keep and Aegon V begins to question Dunk's knighthood after Manfred reveals that he doesn't remember Dunk serving Arlan. If Aegon V reveals truth everyone will mock him since he made a commoner Lord Commander of Kingsguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Someone knights Dunk on the spot. Any knights he knighted are now non-knights and will need to be knightified. Other than that, nothing changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveFirstDieLater Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dead headofMaelysKinslayer said: If someone reveals the truth about Dunk's knighthood how will it affect story? For example, Manfred Dondarrion visits Jena, wife of Prince Baelor in Red Keep and Aegon V begins to question Dunk's knighthood after Manfred reveals that he doesn't remember Dunk serving Arlan. If Aegon V reveals truth everyone will mock him since he made a commoner Lord Commander of Kingsguard. Literally the whole point of the story, and keeping it unclear, is that it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter who your parents are, if you are a bastard, the son of a king, or a pig boy, what matters is how you act. Being Knightly isn’t about a blessing or oils or a coat of arms, it’s about protecting the weak, behaving honorably, and keeping your word. In the words of a Knight’s Tale: “What a pair we make, huh? Both trying to hide who we are, both unable to do so. Your men love you. If I knew nothing else about you, that would be enough. But you also tilt when you should withdraw... and that is knightly, too.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: Someone knights Dunk on the spot. Any knights he knighted are now non-knights and will need to be knightified. Other than that, nothing changes. But Aegon will get angry, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo the Crow Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dead headofMaelysKinslayer said: But Aegon will get angry, yes? I think he will adore him even more so. He is acting as a knight should despite not being a knight while many knights and lords who are also knights don't act as a true knight should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Corvo the Crow said: Someone knights Dunk on the spot. Any knights he knighted are now non-knights and will need to be knightified. Other than that, nothing changes. That's why he did not knight the green apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Dead headofMaelysKinslayer said: But Aegon will get angry, yes? The only person who claimed it to be true is Dunk. The only witness was the deceased knight and a robin in a thorn tree. So, the only one who could ever admit the truth is Dunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Jowana Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, Corvo the Crow said: I think he will adore him even more so. He is acting as a knight should despite not being a knight while many knights and lords who are also knights don't act as a true knight should. I totally agree, Aegon V probably wouldn’t even mind keeping him not knighted and still serving as Lord Commander given how much he respects him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 The truest knights in the story are not "proper" knights: Dunk and his descendant Brienne. I agree w/ what @LiveFirstDieLater said above. It's not for nothing that Martin didn't let his editor (Groell, I think) take some of the several "Words are wind!" out. Words are wind, and what matters are your actions, not who you were born to or what you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandru Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Dead headofMaelysKinslayer said: But Aegon will get angry, yes? What, after squiring for Dunc for many years and traveling from one end of Westeros to the other with him? Aegon would probably laugh. 9 minutes ago, Lady Jowana said: Aegon V probably wouldn’t even mind keeping him not knighted and still serving as Lord Commander given how much he respects him. Har! So Sandor Clegane would not have been the first member of the Kings Guard who wasn't a knighted knight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Jowana Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, zandru said: Har! So Sandor Clegane would not have been the first member of the Kings Guard who wasn't a knighted knight! Lol yeah, now I really want the Hound to know the truth about Dunk so he could mock knights once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I'd say Egg knows about Dunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveFirstDieLater Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Lost Melnibonean said: The only person who claimed it to be true is Dunk. The only witness was the deceased knight and a robin in a thorn tree. So, the only one who could ever admit the truth is Dunk. Right, because little birds and dead men never share any secrets in this story! haha hopefully clearly a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, kissdbyfire said: I'd say Egg knows about Dunk. At what point? Not in the Tales of Dunk and Egg we have so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, LiveFirstDieLater said: Right, because little birds and dead men never share any secrets in this story! haha hopefully clearly a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lost Melnibonean said: At what point? Not in the Tales of Dunk and Egg we have so far... No, it would have happened later than that. My guess is in one of three scenarios. In all scenarios it's Dunk's conscience that gets the better of him. 1) when Egg himself is to be knighted, and he wants Dunk to knight him. 2) when Dunk is named to the KG. 3) when Dunk is named LC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, kissdbyfire said: No, it would have happened later than that. My guess is in one of three scenarios. In all scenarios it's Dunk's conscience that gets the better of him. 1) when Egg himself is to be knighted, and he wants Dunk to knight him. 2) when Dunk is named to the KG. 3) when Dunk is named LC. I have seen it speculated before that Egg will insist on Dunk knighting him, so Dunk will confide his secret with Egg, who, in turn, will knight him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitterblooms Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 hours ago, LiveFirstDieLater said: Literally the whole point of the story, and keeping it unclear, is that it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter who your parents are, if you are a bastard, the son of a king, or a pig boy, what matters is how you act. Being Knightly isn’t about a blessing or oils or a coat of arms, it’s about protecting the weak, behaving honorably, and keeping your word. In the words of a Knight’s Tale: “What a pair we make, huh? Both trying to hide who we are, both unable to do so. Your men love you. If I knew nothing else about you, that would be enough. But you also tilt when you should withdraw... and that is knightly, too.” This. Its Sandor and Gregor from another angle. Or Brienne for that matter. True knights aren't true knights at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Yeah a heart to heart where Dunk confesses to Egg and Egg knights him seems likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Here's Looking At You, Kid Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 It depends on when this revelation takes place. If it had happened while he was alive, for sure the political fall out would tarnish his reputation and it becomes a public relations nightmare for Aegon V, who was already one of the weakest kings in the Targaryen dynasty. No one except the historians would care if it became known today. And this is only because they have to rewrite their scrolls and parchment by hand. Totally inconvenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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