PestilencE Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 @ OP I think "Jaime"'s pronunciation should be the foremost subject of debate, yet you didn't include him. I see that a lot of you are pronouncing the "ae" in the names of various Targaryens as "ay". I think it should be just a strong "e", like in "den". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Good To Be True Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I pronounce Tywin as Tow-in where 'tow' is like the first part of 'towel'. It seems to me vaguely Welsh. Tyrion I say 'Ti-rion' which again seems Welsh to me. I say 'Myr' as 'mere' I can't reconcile with 'Seer-say' for Cersei any more than I could for 'Cirdan' the shipwright as 'Kir-dan'. I say 'Curse-ay' (like curse and 'ay' like 'hay'), if forced I would say 'Sir-see' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Good To Be True Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 It must have a lot to do with where you're from too. Some Americans and Australians would pronounce the name Danny as Denny, so perhaps that explains the variationson the 'ae'? I'd say it as 'aye' but I don't like it like that in Daenerys; De-neris sounds better than 'Die-nigh-ris'. Then again although I say 'Shy' for Shae, 'Shay' isn't so bad. I suppose it's like Latin or Greek. How would people say Thermopylae? Because I'm familiar with Welsh pronunciations (which often confound non-Welsh people) I tend to say things that look vaguely Welsh/Celtic as they'd be pronounced if they were. For example, in Wales there's a River Tywi which I hear pronounced 'tow-e/tow-ee'; the 'tow' like Towel, which is how I say Tywin thus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journeyman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Just a few more I forgot from the first go round: Myrcella: Mur-sull-uh Tommen: Tom-In Oberyn: Oh-Bear-In Loras: Lore-Us Aemon: Ay-Mon Asha: Ay-Shuh Theon: Thee (rhymes with flea or bee) Uhn Balon: Bay-Luhn Victarion: Vic-Tair-Ee-Uhn Aeron: Ay-Run And the big one: Euron: You-Ron (it actually sounded like another word for bodily excrements the first few times I read it until I really thought about) Surnames: Baratheon: Buh-Wrath-Ee-Uhn Lannister: Lan-Uh-Stir Tyrell: Tie-Rail Martell: Just like it looks: Mar-Tell Targaryen: Tar-Gar-Yuhn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkaryan Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 Well, I wasn't too sure about including Jaime. I suppose I was assuming that everybody pronounced it Jay-me, which is how I pronounce it, but I suppose it could be Hy-May. Perhaps Jy-may or just Jame? Hmm? No takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackfish Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 JAY-mee. I think that's confirmed by GRRM. But naturally people have preferred alternative pronunciations as with everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDayne Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Catelyn - kate-lyn Daenerys - die-nar-ess Gendry - hard G Rickon - ree-kon Tyrion - tear-ree-un Jalbhar Xho - jalabar zho Xaro Xhoan Daxos - zharo-zhaon-daksos Lyanna - lie-anna Mrycella - mur-sella Cersai - ser-sai Davos - dah-vos and the Damp Hair thing, wasn't he bald. Lysa - lie-za Thoros of Myr - thor-os of mur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 My best transcriptions of what the audiobook readers say and what GRRM has been recorded saying are at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice...iation_of_names I think there is a mistake on that listing. When I was writing my baby name book I included Arya, and someone directly asked GRRM for me how he pronounced the name, and I was told he said "ARE-yuh" in 2 syllables, with the "y" as a consonant. This is NOT the same as "like the English word aria, as stated on Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDoe Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 The four of us using this sign-in found endless possible variations of most names! We use English, French, Italian and Chinese pronounciations as it suits us, and agree to differ on most names. We all think we recognise GRRM jokes, and pronounce these in English, eg Ilyn Payne (Ill in Pain) , and of course, Xhondo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Targaryen Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I think there is a mistake on that listing. When I was writing my baby name book I included Arya, and someone directly asked GRRM for me how he pronounced the name, and I was told he said "ARE-yuh" in 2 syllables, with the "y" as a consonant. This is NOT the same as "like the English word aria, as stated on Wikipedia. I have heard "ARE-yuh" too at signings and parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disaster Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Well, don't forget that Catelyn's nickname is "Cat", so that indicates to me that her name should be pronounced "cat-e-lyn" Catelyn: "Kate-lynn" and "Cat-a-lynn" lol I flip flop :/ Daenerys: Duh-Nairy-is could be way off though Gendry: Jendry Rickon: Rick-on Tyrion: Tear-e-in Jalabhar Xho and Xaro Xhoan Daxos: lol I don't even try Lyanna: Lee-ah-na Myrcella: Mirsella Cersei: Ser-see Davos: Dave-os Lysa: Lisa Thoros of Myr: For Myr I read Meer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daena the Defiant Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Gendry: I hear it "Jendry" like the soft g in "gentlemen", but "Genna (Lannister)" is spelled similarly and I hear her name with a hard g as in "gone" That's exactly swapped from how I read those Gendry (hard g) and Jenna (as in a certain Ms. Jameson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_BlauerDragon Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Catelyn - kate-lyn Daenerys - day-nare-ees Gendry - Gin-dree Rickon - rick-on Tyrion - tear-ee-un Jalbhar Xho - Jal-a-bar Ju(like the begining of jous in au jous)-o Xaro Xhoan Daxos - Ja-ar-o ju-ho-an dack-zose Lyanna - lee-on-uh Mrycella - meer-cell-a Cersei - ser-see Davos - Da-Vose Lysa - lie-sa Thoros of Myr - thor-ose of meer arya - are-eye-uh jaime - jay-me Tommen - Toe-men Oberyn - Oh-Burr-on Loras - Lore-iss Aemon - A-Mon Asha - Ah-Sha Theon - Th-hey-on Balon - Bay-Luhn Victarion - Vic-Tare-Ee-on Aeron - Aaron Euron - Urine or you're-on Tywin - Tie-win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-ahrairah Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Baratheon - At first buh-RAH-the-OHN, but after I noticed the last two syllables were like the name 'Theon' I switched to BAH-ruh-THE-ohn. Catelyn - CAT-lyn Lyanna - LIE-ann-ah Arya - AR-yuh Tyrion - At first TIE-rien, now TEAR-ien Jaime - JAY-me Cersei - SEER-see Tommen - TOM-en Loras - LORE-ahs Davos - DAV-os Balon - BAHL-ohn Aeron - AIR-ee-ohn Euron - YOUR-ohn Aemon - AY-mon Rhaegar - RAY-gar Aha - ASH-uh Myr - MY-er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Nobody Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Catelyn: Kate-lynn Daenerys: Dane-er-iss Gendry: Gend-ree hard G Rickon: Rick-in Tyrion: This one is weird, for some reason whenever his last name is included I hear Tee-ree-own but whenever it is just his first name I hear Tee-ree-in Jalabhar Xho and Xaro Xhoan Daxos- ja-la-bar zho Zaro Zoan Dax-ose(like verbose) Lyanna: Lee-anna Myrcella: Mer-sell-uh Cersei: Ser-see Lollys and Falyse and Selyse: Loll-iss Fal-eese Sell-eese Davos: Dave-ose Lysa: Lisa Thoros of Myr: Thor-ose of mer Baratheon: Bar-aye-thee-un Oberyn: Obe-er-in Loras: Lore-ass Aemon: Ay-Mun Asha: Ash-uh Theon: Thee-on Balon: Bal(Bal sounds like the first part of Alan)-in Arya- Are-yuh Victarion - Vic-Tare-Ee-in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin's bastard Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I've mostly pronounced it as the general descriptions from GRRM have been (I've only seen them as text though) but to me an important difference is how you pronounce certain letters etc, i.e. stuff you need phonetic spelling to do (something I haven't mastered myself so I'm terrible at describing it). In most names I don't think the average American pronunciation of the letter 'a' is suitable for a fantasy setting. For example 'Loras' sounds too whiny if you pronounce it as Americans pronounce 'ass.' I prefer it as it's pronounced in the Swedish or German 'ja' (which means 'yes,' an example I think most have a clue about). That makes it sound older and thus imo more fitting for fantasy, an opinion that I probably got from Tolkien who had extremely good pronunciations for his names. It's the same as that Elijah Wood's pronunciation of Gandalf was bad and that Christopher Lee's was perfect. My hope is thus that they use a more European model for the names since that's just better in my tastes. There are some exceptions though, like that I for example think that Catelyn always sounded best as Kate-lynn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I think there is a mistake on that listing. When I was writing my baby name book I included Arya, and someone directly asked GRRM for me how he pronounced the name, and I was told he said "ARE-yuh" in 2 syllables, with the "y" as a consonant. This is NOT the same as "like the English word aria, as stated on Wikipedia. While interesting, that’s irrelevant for Wikipedia. GRRM himself couldn’t add that entry. Wikipedia needs to contain information that is verifiable. So I (as a Wikipedia editor) can add information about how audiobook reader X pronounces Y, because you could verify it. (I also tried to transcribe those of GRRM’s pronounciates that are recorded in audio interviews.) But you cannot add the (potentially more interesting) information about how you heard GRRM say it, because I cannot verify it. What you could do is set up a website called “Ordmond’s pronounciations of GRRM characters based on what he heard GRRM sayâ€. Then you (or I) could add that information to Wikipedia under the headline “This is how Ormond says it should be pronouncedâ€, with a link to your website. But neither you, or I, or even GRRM, could just add unverifiable information about pronunciation. To make this completely clear: Verifiablity not truth, for better or for worse, is the dogma of Wikipedia. It’s supposed to be a tertiary source, and may not contain primary information, no matter its quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_BlauerDragon Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Here's one I'm curious about... Always threw me for a loop... Jaquen Jagar ? I always said it as Ya-Keen Ha-Garrr (I don't know why the R rolls at the end, but it does)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammy Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Catelyn: "Cat-a-lynn" (It's most likely Katelyn, though) Daenerys:"Day-nerees," (I don't know why) Gendry: with a hard g as in "gone" Rickon: "Rick-on" Tyrion: T-eye- reeon. Jalabhar Xho and Xaro Xhoan Daxos: Jalabar Zo Lyanna: "Lee-ah-na" Myrcella: "Mirsella" Cersei: "Ser-see" Lollys and Falyse and Selyse: do they all rhyme? Yep Davos: "Dah-vos" Lysa: "Liza" with a long i Thoros of Myr: I hear the country sounding like "Mer" but when it talks of things like the Myrish man or the Myrish lace, I hear "My-rish"... (me too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Lion of Castamere Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 There is no debate. My pronunciations are the correct ones. End of story. Catelyn: Kate-lin Daenerys: Day-nair-ease Gendry: Gen(hard g)-dree Rickon: Rick-uhn Tyrion: Teer-ee-uhn Tywin: Tie-win Myrcella: Mur-sella Cersei: Sir-see Lyanna: Lee-anna Lollys: Lawl-ease Davos: Da-vose Lysa: Lie-suh Myr: Mur Baratheon: Bar-ath-ee-on Oberyn: Oh-bear-in Aemon: Ay-Mon Asha: Ash-uh Theon: Thee-on Balon: Bal(Bal sounds like the first part of Alan)-on Arya- Are-yuh Euron: Yur-on (not "Yur-in" so it sounds like piss) Jaime: Jay-mee (end of story. He's a white guy not a Mexican) Targaryen: just like it sounds: Tar-Gar(like "car" but with a hard g)-Yen Any other pronunciations are wrong and make one sound like a fool when spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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