Torcen Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I've always pronounced Cersei like in Italian..."Chersei", doesn't seem to be a very common pronunciation. On my first read through that's how I said it in my head too.. it wasn't until I started listening to the audio books on my commute to work that I heard it pronounced Ser-see... I was like "who the hell is that?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naz Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Ahh... pronunciation thread rebirth! Anyway, one thing I think should be included in all future printings of fantasy literature... one of those greeting card-type audio features where you open it and you can hear the actual pronunciation guide. Or better yet, you know those early learning children's books that talk aloud when you run a special pen over the text? That would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinO Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Daenerys I've always heard in my had as "Dan-er-ease" the first part being pronounced Dan, as in Danny. Arya, although I know the spelling is different, I can't shake the name from sounding like Eye-rah instead. Tyrion I always hear as "Tyrone" or "Tear-ee-own" or Ty-Ree-on" And Catelyn I've always hear as "Cat-lin" in my head, the e being silent. I think I adapted that because people called her "cat" for short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackfish Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Why did I say I pronounce it TEAR-ee-un? I actually say TIRR-ee-un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-ahrairah Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 A few place names: Qarth - KWOORTH Ghis - GISS Meereen - MEER-een Skahazadhan - SKAH-haz-udh-een Valyria - VAL-ear-ee-uh Yunkai - YUN-kye Skagos - SKAG-ohs Westeros - WEST-er-ohs Rhoyne - ROIN I am now lifted to the exalted rank of Sellsword. Incidently, why was sellsword made a higher level than freerider? Is not a freerider a mounted sellsword, and therefore of greater economic and social standing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyte Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The only one that bothers me is Daenerys. I've always pronounced it De-NAIR-ries, i think it sounds the best. De - rhymes with 'the'. No emphasis. NAIR - rhymes with 'fair'. Emphasis. ries - rhymes with 'countries'. No emphasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palaeologos Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Oddly this one has yet to be mentioned... Damphair: DAMP-Pfair Why would you pronounce it that way? It's clearly a compound of two English words : damp + hair (because he weaves seaweed into his hair, it's damp), so why not pronounce it "damp hair"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-ahrairah Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 When I first read the name "Damphair" I heard DAM-phair in my mind, and still do, even though the damp+hair is now obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyte Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 When I first read the name "Damphair" I heard DAM-phair in my mind, and still do, even though the damp+hair is now obvious. Yeah me too. When I see 'ph' together in a word I pronounce it 'f.' It should have been written "Damp-hair." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor's Lady Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Catelyn: CAT-a-linn Daenerys: Day-NAIR-iss Gendry: Jendry Rickon: Rick-on Tyrion: TEER-ee-on Tywin: Tie-win Myrcella: Mer-SELL-a Cersei: Sir-say Lyanna: lee-AH-na Lollys: loll-iss Davos: Dah-VOSS Lysa: Liss-a Myr: Meer Baratheon: Buh-RATH-ee-on Oberyn: Obb-er-inn Aemon: AY-Mon Asha: Ah-shuh Theon: the first time I read it, I thought THEE-on, but later started thinking THAY-on Balon: Ba (like in bat or cat)-lon Arya- Ar-ya Euron: Yur-on Jaime: I go back and forth between Jay-mee and Jy-may, partly 'cause Jay-mee feels more natural, but I pronounce Cersei as Sir-say and feel like they should rhyme 'cause they're twins Targaryen: TAR-gar-yen Jaqen H'gar: JAY-ken huh-GAR Rhaegar - HRAY-gar Lyanna - LEE-ah-na Jalabhar Xho - Jah-lob-har ksho Xaro Xhoan Daxos - ksar-o ksho-ahn dak-sos Khal - with a hard guttural h like the Russian "kh" or the German "ch" also, I used to pronounce Petyr as "Pet-eer" until i read somewhere GRRM confirmed it as "peter" Qarth - kyarth Ghis - giss (hard g) Meereen - mee-reen Skahazadhan - ska-HAHZ-a-dan Valyria - Va-LEER-ee-a Yunkai - Yoon-kie (like "tie") Rhoyne - roin I also first read "Dam-phair," and then when I reread the series realise it was "damp-hair" ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desdemona Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I really miss stress marks in many of these posts. A name sounds completely different depending on which syllable has the stress. So please, please use either caps as many people have, or ' in front of the stressed syllable. As in 'sill-a-bull Note that whenever an "i" is used, it's always meant to be short. For a long "i", I use "eye". For a long vowel as in "see", I use "ee". Okay, here goes: Catelyn: 'Kate-lin ('K8t-lin) Sansa: 'San-suh Arya: Somehow became 'Air-ee-uh for me... Bran: As in "bran flakes" Rickon: 'Rick-un Jaime: 'Jay-mee Lannister: 'Lann-is-tuh Tyrion: 'Tir-ee-un Tywin: Another place where I sometimes switch between 'Tiw-win and 'Tie-win Cersei: I used to go with 'Kur-see but have since switched to 'Sir-see. Maybe the C became a K because I'm Danish and that's how it is with most c's here. Baratheon: buh-'Rath-ee-un Daenarys: dan-'Air-iss Targaryen: tar-'Gair-ee-un Viserys: vis-'Air-iss Rhaegar: 'Ray-'Gare (as in "are") Lysa: 'Lie-suh Edmure: 'Edd-mjoore (that's probably hard to grip for native English speakers. Imagine replacing the "n" in "injure" with an "m" and elongating the vowel. That's the sound I'm looking for for the second syllable.) Brynden: 'Brinn-din Hoster: 'Host-uh (as in "host") Lyanna: lee-'Ann-uh Myrcella: mir-'Sell-uh Gendry: 'Genn-dree (short end vowel) Lollys: 'Loll-iss Falyse, Selyse: fuh-'Lees, suh-'Lees Pycelle: pi-'Sell Aemon: 'Ay-minn Aegon: 'Ay-'Gone (shorter syllable stressed as well, but less so than the first) Davos: 'Day-viss Oberyn: 'Ohh-buh-rin Theon: 'The-un (same consonant as in "thesis", not as in "thee") Asha: 'A-shuh (vowel as in "hat" Aeron: 'Air-in Euron: 'You-'Ron (like Yukon, just with an "r" instead of the "k") Qarth: 'Kwarth (as in "warm") Ghis: 'Giss Meereen: muh-'Reen Valyria: val-'Eer-i-uh Yunkai: 'yung-kie (first syllable as in German "jung", not as in "young") Skagos: 'Skay-giss Westeros: 'Wess-ter-ohs Rhoyne: 'Roin (as in "soy") Myr, Myrish: 'Meer, 'Meer-ish Pentos: 'Penn-tis Braavos, Braavosi: 'Brah-vis, brah-'Voh-see ("a" as in "bra") Asshai: 'Ass-shy Petyr: 'Pee-tur Balon: 'Bay-lun Varys: 'Vair-iss Jaqen H'gar: 'Jay-ken h'Garr (the "h" blown but without sound preceding the "Garr") Ygritte: ee-'Grit Craster: 'Krass-tuh Pyp: 'Pipp Jeor: 'Jay-orr Jalabhar Xho: 'Jal-uh-barr 'Gsoh Xaro Xhoan Daxos: Don't think I've actually ever thought too much about this one... hmm... 'Ksa-ro 'Kso-un 'Dak-sis Margaery: 'Marge-u-ree Loras: 'Lor-iss Thoros: 'Thor-iss Gregor: 'Gregg-ur Sandor: 'Sand-or Qyburn: 'Kie-burn Ok. Enough already - for now. So many names! Gotta love being a pedant, hee hee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Cersei: I used to go with 'Kur-see but have since switched to 'Sir-see. Maybe the C became a K because I'm Danish and that's how it is with most c's here. Cersei may be a deliberate homophone with Circe (a witch from Greek mythology), and the proper Danish pronunciation (and speling) of that woman is Kirke. So you’re right on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soporta Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 The first time I saw Cersei, I immediately thought of Circe, but pronounced it Sir-sea, the way they did on the tv show 'ship to the shore'. All the names I recognised as regular real world names, I pronounced the regular way, like Jaime (Jay-me), Catelyn (Kate-lyn), Jon (John), Gregor (Greg-or), Brienne (Bree-en). Others Myrcella - Mer-chella (I couldn't stop pronouncing it this way, but figured it should probably be soft c - sella) Arya - are-ya Daenerys - Day-e-nair-ys (4 syllables - am I the only one?) although Rhaegar was Ray-gar, not Ray-e-gar, so I'm not exactly consistent. Gendry - (Gen-dree - hard g) Jalabhar Xho - Jal-a-bar Jho (x pronounced like french j) Loras - Low-ras or Lore-ras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szar Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 It seems there are more Danes here than I thought. Interesting. I usually do not pronounce the names, and I am not particularly good at describing the pronounciation, but here's how I would do it: Eddard: ED-ard Catelyn: KAT-uh-lihn. Arya: AR-yah Sansa: Sahn-sah Rickon: RICK-ohn Lahn-ih-stir Jaime: DJAY-me or Djaim Cersei: SIR-say Tyrion: Tih-ree-ohn Tywin: Tih-win Tully: TUH-lieh Edmure: ED-muhr Hoster: Host-uh Lysa: Lih-sah Targaryen: Tahr-gah-ri-ehn Daenerys: Dah-eh-neh-rys or Day-eh-neh-rys Viserys: Vihs-eh-rys Rhaegar: Rah-eh-gar or Ray-eh-gar Aerys: Ay-rys Aegon: Ay-gone Aemon: Ay-mohn Valyria: Vah-leer-ih-uh Varys: Vah-rys Theon: Thee-ohn Balon: Bay-lohn Euron: You-rohn Aeron: Eh-rohn Victarion: Vick-tah-ree-ohn Asha: Ash-uh Baratheon: Bah-rath-ee-ohn Gendry: Djen-drih Davos: Dah-voss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Lion of Castamere Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 When I first read the name "Damphair" I heard DAM-phair in my mind, and still do, even though the damp+hair is now obvious. Yeah its funny. Im on my second reread of the series an it took me basically this long to get that it was damp-hair. I always thought it was damfair and it confused me because it didn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larajane Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 My best transcriptions of what the audiobook readers say and what GRRM has been recorded saying are at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice...iation_of_names I think it must be me being a lackwit, because someone else refers to this link later on, but when i click, it just takes me to the main asoif wiki, with general and backgroud etc and i cant find anything about pronounciation - can someone direct me as if i am Hodor-like please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor's Lady Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 A few I forgot on my first post (though how I could forget any on so long a post I'll never know...): Margaery - MAR-gair-ee (I figure, why would he use an "a" after the "g" unless he wnated it to be hard?) It sounds almost like Margueritte in my head... Melisandre - Meh-liss-AHN-dreh. Kinda like you'd say Alexandre in French - very soft R on the end. Eyrie and Arryn - I say "AIR-ee" (kinda describes the Eyrie, no?) and "AR-inn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akratan Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I've always read Cersei = Chair - say or Ker - say :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nana&crow Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I'm also one of the few people who say /kur-see/ or /kur-say/ (it varies from time to time), instead or /ser-see/ or /ser-say/. to me it had a gaelic ring to it and that's why I see /k/ in my mind rather than /s/. still, sometimes it also makes me think of "Circe" and then I'm at a loss. my other pronunciations go something like this: Catelyn: kate-leen Sansa: sahn-sah Arya: ah-ree-ah Rickon: ree-kon Tyrion: tie-ree-on Tywin: tie-win (all "ty-something" names I pronounce the same) Gendry: gen-dree (the "g" of "gone") Genna: je-nna (a bit contradicting...) Lysa: lee-sah Lyanna: lee-anna Petyr: peh-tire Myrcella: meer-se-llah Daenerys: dah-eh-nair-rees Aegeon: eh-gheon (like in greek words like "aeneid" or "aeneas") Davos: dah-vos Xaro Xhoan Daxos: sha-roh sho-an dak-sos (don't ask me why, it just came naturally) same goes for Xalabhar Xo Thoros of Myr: thoros of meer (though I say mie-reesh, not mee-reesh) Clegane: cleh-gane Brienne: bree-ehnne (like a french name) Jaqen H'ghar: ja-ken ghar Qyburn: qy-burn (as it sounds) Nymeria: nie-mear-ree-ah Oberyn: ober-inn Sandor: sahn-dohr Theon: thee-on Balon: bah-lon Loras: lor-ahs Targaryen: tahr-gah-ree-en Baratheon: bah-rah-theh-on Tyrell: tie-rell Khalasar: kah-lah-sahr Khaleesi: kah-leh-see Lys: lease Ghis: ghees Braavos: brah-vohs Quarth: kwarth Meereen: as it sounds Valyria: va-leer-ria Yunkai: yoon-kah-ee (sort of like I'd say it in spanish) Rhoyne: roin Pentos: pehn-tohs Asshay: ah-shy hmmm... there are many more, but if I keep on I'll never finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I think it must be me being a lackwit, because someone else refers to this link later on, but when i click, it just takes me to the main asoif wiki, with general and backgroud etc and i cant find anything about pronounciation - can someone direct me as if i am Hodor-like please? It’s no longer on the current pages because of the obvious problems regarding verifiability. You can browse around in the old 2007 version of the article and find it. Here it is: Characters Areo Hotah GRRM-CBC /ˈɑrioʊ hoʊˈtɑː/, sometimes /ˈhoʊtɑː/Arya GRRM-FF /ˈɑriə/, like English ariaBran GRRM-FF /bræn/, like English branBrienne GRRM-RH /briːˈɛni/ RD, JL: /braɪˈiːn/Caleotte GRRM-CBC: /ˈkælɪɒt/)Catelyn (?: /ˈkætlɪn/)Cersei GRRM-RH /ˈsɝseɪ/ RD ˈsɝsɪ/ JL /ˈsɪərseɪ/Daenerys GRRM-RH /dəˈnɛrɪs/ (?: /deɪˈnɛərɪs/)Dany GRRM-RH /ˈdæni/Davos GRRM-RH /ˈdɑːvoʊs/Doran GRRM-CBC /doʊˈræn/Jaime GRRM-RH /ˈdʒeɪmi/ (?: /ˈdʒeɪmɪ/)Jojen (?: /ˈdʒoʊdʒən/)Jon GRRM-RH /dʒɑːn/, like English JohnLysa (?: /ˈlaɪsə/)Petyr GRRM[14] /piːˈtɚ/, like English Peter (no, that would be /ˈpiːtɚ/ -- ed.) but RD: /pɪˈtaɪɚ/Rickon GRRM-RH /ˈrɪkɒn/Tommen GRRM-CBC, RD, JL /ˈtoʊmən/Tyrion GRRM-RH, ? /ˈtɪriən/Tywin (?: /ˈtaɪwɪn/)Viserys (?: /vɪˈsɛərɪs/) Houses and surnames Baratheon (?: /bəˈrʌθɪən/)Lannister GRRM-RH /ˈlænɪstɚ/Stark GRRM-RH /stɑrk/, like English starkTargaryen GRRM-RH /tɑrˈgɛriən/ (?: /tæˈgɛərɪən/)Presumably, bastard names (like Snow and Rivers) are always pronounced like the corresponding common noun Places Asshai RD: /aˈʃaɪ/ JL: /ˈaʃaɪ/Westeros GRRM-RH /ˈwɛstɚoʊs/TitlesKhaleesi (?: /kəˈliːsɪ/)Maester (?: /ˈmeɪstɚ/)Ser (?: /sɝ/, like English sir) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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