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Guy Gavriel Kay

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That makes sense thank you Mack. :)

I have both Lions and Last Light would it make a difference which I read first?

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I have both Lions and Last Light would it make a difference which I read first?

I don't think it matters which you read first in terms of plot comprehension. There's not any connection between the two stories at all, other than that they are in the same world. I like them both, though I think I like Lions a bit more.

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OK good to know. My favourite seems to change based on what I'm currently reading. :P I thought Under Heaven was it but upon rereading the Sarantines I like those better, I think.

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Curious, I know he has a lot of historical fantasy - does Under Heaven or Lions have any actual magic in it? Doesn't seem like it at first glance.

I think Lions has the least magic of any of Kay's books - one character has visions, but that's about it. Under Heaven has a bit more, mainly some shamans who act as antagonists in one of the subplots.

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Next Guy Gavriel Kay book is called River of Stars and comes out in April:

http://www.amazon.co...39326491&sr=1-2

awesome. did some poking out. found an interview where kay says it takes place in china, about 350-400 years after Under Heaven, but is unrelated otherwise.

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New blurb:

In his critically acclaimed novel Under Heaven, Guy Gavriel Kay told a vivid and powerful story inspired by China’s Tang Dynasty. Now, the international bestselling and multiple award-winning author revisits that invented setting four centuries later with an epic of prideful emperors, battling courtiers, bandits and soldiers, nomadic invasions, and a woman battling in her own way, to find a new place for women in the world – a world inspired this time by the glittering, decadent Song Dynasty.

Ren Daiyan was still just a boy when he took the lives of seven men while guarding an imperial magistrate of Kitai. That moment on a lonely road changed his life—in entirely unexpected ways, sending him into the forests of Kitai among the outlaws. From there he emerges years later—and his life changes again, dramatically, as he circles towards the court and emperor, while war approaches Kitai from the north.

Lin Shan is the daughter of a scholar, his beloved only child. Educated by him in ways young women never are, gifted as a songwriter and calligrapher, she finds herself living a life suspended between two worlds. Her intelligence captivates an emperor—and alienates women at the court. But when her father’s life is endangered by the savage politics of the day, Shan must act in ways no woman ever has.

In an empire divided by bitter factions circling an exquisitely cultured emperor who loves his gardens and his art far more than the burdens of governing, dramatic events on the northern steppe alter the balance of power in the world, leading to events no one could have foretold, under the river of stars.

http://www.amazon.co...42388078&sr=1-8

Edited by Jussi

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I wonder if HarperVoyager UK have dropped Kay. There have been no news about UK edition of River of Stars, and the book is missing from the publisher's database.

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For those who do have a facebook account, Kay has released the first two chapters of River of Stars on Facebook.

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Any and all input is appreciated. But damn, I swear Tigana must be a polarizing book because it tends to be in everyone's top two or among their list of criminally overrated.

I always assumed that Tigana was polarizing mainly because Brandin of Ygrath is polarizing. Tigana is a great story, but it is my least favorite of the Kay novels that I have read, specifically because I hated Brandin and how Kay presented him.

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I always assumed that Tigana was polarizing mainly because Brandin of Ygrath is polarizing. Tigana is a great story, but it is my least favorite of the Kay novels that I have read, specifically because I hated Brandin and how Kay presented him.

It's so weird. I only get notifications on a post of mine being quoted if it's from years ago.

Yeah - Brandin is sort of a sympathetic villain or something.

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No, Brandin is a proto-fascistic asshat. But then so is everyone else in that book.

(Just getting in here to illustrate the polarity, yo.)

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No, Brandin is a proto-fascistic asshat. But then so is everyone else in that book.

(Just getting in here to illustrate the polarity, yo.)

To be fair, that's kind of the beast of romantic nationalism. (which Tigana absolutely reeks of)

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What is fair about that?

(Admittedly, I still haven't finished it. Six months and counting. It's because i'm not so secretly a masochist.)

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I wonder if HarperVoyager UK have dropped Kay. There have been no news about UK edition of River of Stars, and the book is missing from the publisher's database.

Amazon UK has the publisher as ROC, so I guess Penguin is publishing it in all the english-speaking countries itself.

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Kay wrote in his journal on January 1st:

A UK announcement/press release for River is in the works. Any day.

And in December:

Oh. There will be good UK news very soon. They are doing a press release. I’ll wait for that.

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I thought that Ysabel one was the weakest; but haven't read the latest (don't particularly care about China)

You're missing out. It's fantastic. Will be looking forward to River of Stars.

Currently reading Lions of Al-Rassan. I have decided that Kay is the Quentin Tarantino of fantasy. Larger than life characters that sometimes verge on caricature but generally fall just the right side of the line, no shyness about violence and, most importantly, tons of dialogue-based scenes of shifting tensions and power plays.

It's great.

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I thought that Ysabel one was the weakest; but haven't read the latest (don't particularly care about China)

What does this even mean? I hope you mean, "I'm not motivated or moved by the idea of a fantastical setting influenced and shaped by Chinese history and myth." But, even so, it's a shame you're missing out on a wonderful novel.

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