mormont Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Is it just me, but this thread has gone really off topic? =pTrue. :) We should get back to the Meereenese knot. Apologies for the derail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter209 Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 New update saying the knot may be fraying. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahma Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 New update saying the knot may be fraying. What do you all think?That we shouldn't quote him on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Monkey Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 What does that mean? Does that mean that it's unraveling or becoming worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolorouseddwasright Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 It means that GRRM hopes he has found a way to loosen the knot. But he doesn't know yet if it will work. Damn you knot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 A fraying knot is one that's likelier to break. So ... I think at the time, GRRM felt he was maybe making some headway. But as he said, don't quote him. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Monkey Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Oh.I confess, I usually don't bother with untying knots. Once it gets so tangled that it takes me more than a minute or two to unravel it, I figure that God must have a reason for it to be that way. Certainly, when it starts fraying (that is, when loose bits of thread start coming off of it to get in my way), it's pretty safe to assume than it's part of the divine providence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMary Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Except the story isn't about the Starks, it's about westeros as a whole. Some Stark happen to be heroes, but so do Lannisters and Targaryens. For good cause, it is entirely speculation, though the idea of a Stark return is usually based on Jojen's "The wolves will return" (he means the Starks), and on the interpretation that the ex-title of the last book (a time for wolves) referred to the Starks.Also, I love the repeated accounts of a big pack of wolves headed by a huge she-wolf roaming the wilderness and growing in number. Nymeria represents Arya and I think is a harbinger of the Stark family's resurgence. Whether it's actually Arya that returns as Lady of Winterfell or she somehow manages to unite her remaining siblings and Stark allies is yet to be seen.Now, how Arya's story ties into the Meerenese knot ;P ... that is what I want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedave Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Also, I love the repeated accounts of a big pack of wolves headed by a huge she-wolf roaming the wilderness and growing in number. Nymeria represents Arya and I think is a harbinger of the Stark family's resurgence. Whether it's actually Arya that returns as Lady of Winterfell or she somehow manages to unite her remaining siblings and Stark allies is yet to be seen.Now, how Arya's story ties into the Meerenese knot ;P ... that is what I want to know.I always find it funny when people try to think of Arya as a leader, and even more as a 'lady' of Winterfell. If any of them are going to unite the others it'll be Jon or Sansa; one because he's actually a leader, the other because she's almost certainly going to learn the ways of politics.Arya can't even lead herself adequately, save into danger and captivity (has any character in the series been captured more than Arya?).As the Stark in Winterfell she'd be the most incompetent leader of all time. She's got no manners, no understanding of statecraft, no grip of politics, and no patience. If that's not a recipe for disaster when dealing with one's bannermen I don't know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryamano Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 How many characters did GRRM say offiicially were a part of the meerese knot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 There are at least 5 POVs that start or end up in Meereen. If that answers your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryamano Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 There are at least 5 POVs that start or end up in Meereen. If that answers your question.Yes it does. One of them must be Dany, right? The other candidates are Tyrion, Barristan Selmy and who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heal Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 You're talking to the guy who listed Gregor Clegane as a Liberal.Gregor Clegane is extremely liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Godric Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Yes it does. One of them must be Dany, right? The other candidates are Tyrion, Barristan Selmy and who else?Quentyn Martell and Victorian Greyjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Marcelino Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 The "old bear" disappeared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Marcelino Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I always find it funny when people try to think of Arya as a leader, and even more as a 'lady' of Winterfell. If any of them are going to unite the others it'll be Jon or Sansa; one because he's actually a leader, the other because she's almost certainly going to learn the ways of politics. Arya can't even lead herself adequately, save into danger and captivity (has any character in the series been captured more than Arya?). As the Stark in Winterfell she'd be the most incompetent leader of all time. She's got no manners, no understanding of statecraft, no grip of politics, and no patience. If that's not a recipe for disaster when dealing with one's bannermen I don't know what is. Read only until the third book, but it seems that Arya has more direction for the warrior side. She can even become a man without a face. However, the fact remains that this child has gone through a lot and survived, she certainly has a contribution to make. It may be that sansa really understand the "Game of Thrones" by the political side, but Arya felt like a wolf also has to struggle to survive. And, very important fact, the wolf of sansa died and it certainly means something. She is the single stark to live without wolf.But there is another question, if Arya becomes a man without a face, Nimerya and straks will recognize it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 As the Stark in Winterfell she'd be the most incompetent leader of all time. She's got no manners, no understanding of statecraft, no grip of politics, and no patience. If that's not a recipe for disaster when dealing with one's bannermen I don't know what is. Well obviously Arya won't ever rule Winterfell as Lady Arya Stark. Sansa and her brothers are still alive for one and I see no reason for the story even going in that direction. I could however see her playing a major part in bringing the pack back together. Also it's worth taking into account that by the time she comes back she may well be 13 or older so she has a lot to learn. Arya can't even lead herself adequately, save into danger and captivity (has any character in the series been captured more than Arya?). Actually her path has proved the complete opposite. She's been captured sure but she's also survived through war and captivitity, and has travelled half way across the world by herself. Remarkable feats for a ten year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gran de Lys Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Welp, according the show, there's your Meereeneese Knot, har har. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittleLinger Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Welp, according the show, there's your Meereeneese Knot, har har.That was a good easter egg, I laughed :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Beyond the Wall Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 For all our admiration for his willingness to kill off characters, we know Jon and Dany are going all the way, if not to a happy ending, then at least to the last book.How do we know Jon is going all the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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