jurble Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 So I read this article on Timehttp://tinyurl.com/yd2t5grand then decided to look into those rates he mentionedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States#History_of_progressivity_in_federal_income_taxHoly crap. Those rates are mind-blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxelF Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Page not found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Jurble,Ah, screw it. Tax everyone 100% of income and let the government divey it up according to "need".:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Bring back pre-Reagan tax rates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Page not found.Copy and paste it or someeething half the link decided not to be clickable. The board shortened it and guff, it's on the Time website at anyrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Jurble,Ah, screw it. Tax everyone 100% of income and let the government divey it up according to "need".:PAs long as it's State governments, right? Ones that can separate folks along the lines of color.ETA: Jurble, fix the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime L Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Jurble,Ah, screw it. Tax everyone 100% of income and let the government divey it up according to "need".:PHere's what I don't get about criticism of taxes in this country. Throughout this decade the gap between rich and poor in this country has grown exponentially. The middle class as we've known it throughout our lives is continuing to shrink and yet for some reason half this country is up and arms about increased taxes on those over $250,000. Why are common people sticking up for the rich over having a decently funded public university for their kid? It's not rational in an economic sense.Also, yes, the marginal rates were outrageous prior to Reagan, but no-one actually paid that. There was an arcane system of deductions that allowed anyone with resources to escape from a large share of that tax burden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 ETA: Jurble, fix the link.glrlgrlglrlgI tiny url'd ithttp://tinyurl.com/yd2t5gr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Stego,As long as it's State governments, right? Ones that can separate folks along the lines of color.No. Jamie,Also, yes, the marginal rates were outrageous prior to Reagan, but no-one actually paid that. There was an arcane system of deductions that allowed anyone with resources to escape from a large share of that tax burden. You mean the Tax Attorney/Accountant employment program? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Here's what I don't get about criticism of taxes in this country. Throughout this decade the gap between rich and poor in this country has grown exponentially. The middle class as we've known it throughout our lives is continuing to shrink and yet for some reason half this country is up and arms about increased taxes on those over $250,000. Why are common people sticking up for the rich over having a decently funded public university for their kid? It's not rational in an economic sense.Also, yes, the marginal rates were outrageous prior to Reagan, but no-one actually paid that. There was an arcane system of deductions that allowed anyone with resources to escape from a large share of that tax burden.Is it because so many people still believe in the American Dream of getting rich, even though what qualifies as rich is beyond *99.9 % of them?*that stat was taken out of my gimpy ass :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 *that stat was taken out of my gimpy ass :PYou have a smart ass. We should tax the rich to the point of socialism, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potsherds Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Holy crap. Those rates are mind-blowing.Dude. I sooooo know. I mean, look at how low the current top bracket rates are compared to back in the 60's (thereabouts) when the U.S. wasn't a debtor country but a lender country! Holy frakking shit, the trend in rates recently are kinda similar to the trend before the Great Depression too! Well, I'm convinced. We need to be taxing that top %1 of disgustingly rich folk much more. They might as well donate a bit of their monies to help fund social services for the large amount of poor folks in this country off the backs of whom they made their dishonest earnings. Give a little back, yaknow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Dude. I sooooo know. I mean, look at how low the current top bracket rates are compared to back in the 60's (thereabouts) when the U.S. wasn't a debtor country but a lender country! Holy frakking shit, the trend in rates recently are kinda similar to the trend before the Great Depression too! Well, I'm convinced. We need to be taxing that top %1 of disgustingly rich folk much more. They might as well donate a bit of their monies to help fund social services for the large amount of poor folks in this country off the backs of whom they made their dishonest earnings. Give a little back, yaknow?Nah, 1913-1915 is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean of Notions Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Give a little back, yaknow?Hmmm... A friend of mine once said (paraphrase), "Shouldn't these people give back to the system that allowed them to get that rich to begin with?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hmmm... A friend of mine once said (paraphrase), "Shouldn't these people give back to the system that allowed them to get that rich to begin with?"That's crazy talk. Anyway...Honestly, those income tax numbers are ridiculous. Utterly absurd. And yet, there's no revolution in sight. Comfort is too mighty a motivator. Unmotivator? Demotivator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 for some reason half this country is up and arms about increased taxes on those over $250,000. Why are common people sticking up for the rich over having a decently funded public university for their kid? It's not rational in an economic sense.Because people are stupid and they watch FOX News and listen to Rush Limbaugh (who are all paid spokespeople) who lie to them. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hmmm... A friend of mine once said (paraphrase), "Shouldn't these people give back to the system that allowed them to get that rich to begin with?"No, because every fabulously rich person got that rich with smarts and hard work, and fuck you for jealously wanting to dim the glow of these captains of industry and commerce, you fucking socialist fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stego Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Is it because so many people still believe in the American Dream of getting rich, even though what qualifies as rich is beyond *99.9 % of them?People are not taught to think for themselves. Too many people doing that and the status quo is in jeopardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Because people are stupid and they watch FOX News and listen to Rush Limbaugh (who are all paid spokespeople) who lie to them. :DIt's not JUST stupidity and the desire for comfort. I think it's because the system is pretty much water tight. You get locked into it and have very little wriggle room by the time you are in your mid/late twenties. Hell you're locked into it from birth, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potsherds Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 No, because every fabulously rich person got that rich with smarts and hard work, and fuck you for jealously wanting to dim the glow of these captains of industry and commerce, you fucking socialist fuck.:rofl:'captains of industry and commerce' :lmao:I wish more people called me a 'fucking socialist fuck', it's all around closer to the truth than 'fascist' or 'commie'. 'Merkan folks in the places I've lived don't seem to know the difference between their political and economic philosophies :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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