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A quick note on deadlifts. Pick up Starting Strength (http://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-2nd-Mark-Rippetoe/dp/0976805421) and work on the fundamentals. This book will give you a lot of additional tips on how to perform the DL's

I prefer the conventional dead with the mixed grip (for anything over 400). I hate the fucking hook grip with a passion, but can understand it's use. I've been trying to work it into more of my lifts, but i can't stand the daym thing. I also feel this positioning helps to transition to other oly lifts (clean, clean and jerk, and even snatch)

I've seen the sumo lift used for the really heavy pulls (which is odd, as Olympic lifters do not use this stance). This lift works the shit out of your legs and hips, and saves some of your back from the dreaded deadlift back pull. I don't like it, again i see the use, but see it as something that you 'build up to' not something that you work out right away with.

Just my .02, find what works for you, just don't hurt yourself.

Sumo is just easier for some people based on their leverages. Whichever one you can lift more weight doing, pick that one.

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I've got to say that putting the first 45 lb plates onto the bar, and taking them off afterwards, is one of the most irritating things I have ever done. So basically this is gonna sound kind of dumb but does anyone have a way to put them on and take them off efficiently?

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hi! I keep telling myself I'm gonna stay away from this thread, but I keep lurking 'cause I really don't know anywhere else to ask these questions. and I gotta question, so here I am. :blushing:

...squat again after 30 seconds, something is wrong and you are not squatting right. The spinal fluid should still be coursing through your veins making it hard for you to stand.

Stego, you mentioned this once before... and I don't know what you mean. Can you explain what you mean here; what happens to your spinal fluid and how it gets into your veins?

I've been working to try and do proper squats, and its been a long process (way longer than I imagined). One problem keeping me from lifting the weight I should be lifting is some weirdness in one of my hip joint, but I think I'm slowly resolving that. but the other problem, is when I start using weight that approaches my max, I sometimes get this weird pop in the base of my skull which burns, makes me a tad dizzy and hard to see straight for a couple of minutes. This is the point that I stop, even though the weight doesn't seem to be too much otherwise. I'm trying to figure out what this pop is, and if it has anything (perhaps) to do with this spinal fluid issue.

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Stego, you mentioned this once before... and I don't know what you mean. Can you explain what you mean here; what happens to your spinal fluid and how it gets into your veins?

I've been working to try and do proper squats, and its been a long process (way longer than I imagined). One problem keeping me from lifting the weight I should be lifting is some weirdness in one of my hip joint, but I think I'm slowly resolving that. but the other problem, is when I start using weight that approaches my max, I sometimes get this weird pop in the base of my skull which burns, makes me a tad dizzy and hard to see straight for a couple of minutes. This is the point that I stop, even though the weight doesn't seem to be too much otherwise. I'm trying to figure out what this pop is, and if it has anything (perhaps) to do with this spinal fluid issue.

Ok, first let me say I don't have a source. I looked quickly for one... but could not find one. This might be 'weightlifter science.' (I don't think it is, but I am not certain.)

My understanding is that during the compression of the spine under a heavy load, some small amount of spinal fluid leaks.* (The more compression; the more leakage -- but still a minor amount.) This fluid hitting your bloodstream is what causes the puking, nausea, passing out, dizziness that can come from squats and deadlifts.

If your neck is popping, that's bad. Go get it checked out by a spinal specialist. DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME ON A CHIROPRACTOR.

*You constantly make more spinal fluid while sleeping, so it's not as if you will run out or anything.

ETA: Is it not mentioned in Starting Strength? This might be some shit I read in bodybuilding magazines back in the day. I had a subscription to Muscle Media for years and years. If so, discount it as nonsense. :D

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If your neck is popping, that's bad. ... DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME ON A CHIROPRACTOR.

ETA: Is it not mentioned in Starting Strength? This might be some shit I read in bodybuilding magazines back in the day. I had a subscription to Muscle Media for years and years. If so, discount it as nonsense. :D

Thank you Stego! kk, sounds like they are two different issues then. my dizzziness seems to only really happen when I get the burning sensation in my neck. So, for the moment, I'll continue not lifting that much weight. (I just wasn't sure if this was one of these things like your puking & dizziness that I should work through or not).

no, I have no use for chiropractors. I went to a handful some years back, and they were quacks who talked stupid science, so I won't go back again. but thanks for the warning!

I couldn't find it in Starting Strength, but that doesn't mean its not there. I read the whole general intro/beginning, and then I've focused on the squat & deadlift sections since that is what I'm working on of late. no mention in them about spinal fluids that I could find. I did skim the trouble shooting section at the end and didn't find it. but as I work my way through the rest of the book I may yet come across it. I suppose I should just read the whole thing cover to cover right away, but its so dense that was reading bits and then trying it out before moving to the next section, you know?

thanks again.

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