TrueMetis Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 It’s not so simple. Not everything is good in Sweden. Quick Wikipedia exercise: which natural resource is Sweden’s economy based on?Judging from the immigration soylent green. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosciuszko Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 The obvious answer is IKEA. They spring up naturally in Sweden I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 The obvious answer is IKEA. They spring up naturally in Sweden I hear.I hear their trees grow flat-packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 natural resource is Sweden’s economySKF ball bearings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Stark Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't think that counts as natural.eta - between guesswork and wikipedia - Timber?Nah it's techie stuff, isn't it? Engineering and what not.I think this is HE's point: Sweden is a highly knowledgebased economy and there are very few jobs in sectors that don't deal with engineering, biotech, medicine etc.SKF ball bearings? Hey, no slamming of SKF! Half my family on my dad's side where lowly factory workes for SKF at one point or another. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I think this is HE's point: Sweden is a highly knowledgebased economy and there are very few jobs in sectors that don't deal with engineering, biotech, medicine etc.No, the point is that Sweden builds its economy on cutting down trees. So the host culture is not very welcoming of people like me. Most Swedish art about trees involves them either just standing around, or being cut down and burned or turned into housing or furniture.There’s very little…agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Stark Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 No, the point is that Sweden builds its economy on cutting down trees. So the host culture is not very welcoming of people like me. Most Swedish art about trees involves them either just standing around, or being cut down and burned or turned into housing or furniture.There’s very little…agency.:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lummel Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 No, the point is that Sweden builds its economy on cutting down trees. Hehe, excellent didn't see that coming! I take my hat off to you sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Other-in-Law Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 No, the point is that Sweden builds its economy on cutting down trees.(revs chainsaw)But why should the superior Swedish vertebrate culture be shackled by a backward looking Dendrism that demands the artificial preservation of lifeforms that are incapable of competing in the marketplace of life value? Trees have been repeatedly demonstrated to be several standard deviations below mammals in terms of intelligence. There are literally reams upon reams of peer reviewed studies that prove this, no need to take my word for it. But sadly the Sylviculturalist hegemony forbids discussion of allowing (or indeed assisting) the mass extinction of Xylem based taxons as evolution clearly intended...it's the tree-hugging Left's version of creationism. Life existed before trees and there's no reason to think it won't do continue just fine long after the last gnarly stump has been polished into a humidor, which unlike any living tree, is actually useful for something. What sort of condescending cliches do we see put forward as justification for the preservation of trees? 'Oh, it's nice how they provide shade.' Well, excuse me for wanting to crawl out of the shadows of our benighted, primordial past and seek enlightenment. That sort of multiculturalism....positing fresh air and intellectual advancement as equal to mouldering in stagnant humus...is frankly offensive, and no more than what one would expect from day-tripping liberal tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 about trees involves them either just standing around, or being cut down and burned or turned into housing or furniture.so, HE, your principal complaint in this thread is that multiculturalism has failed because arboreals and non-arboreals have failed to live together, despite their differences, evidenced by the latter allegedly enslaving and committing genocide against the former? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 mouldering in stagnant humus...is frankly offensive, and no more than what one would expect from day-tripping liberal tourists.So we're moving from sylvian prejudice to cullinary prejudice now? Oh wait, that's the double m spelling. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Ah, thanks for brining us back on topic!Great definition. This is one of the definitions under which I loathe and detest multiculturalism. Cultures by themselves, and their diversity, and not inherently praiseworthy. In fact, most cultures are utterly despicable. I'm not going to celebrate anything just because it's a different culture.This, of course, is because I focus on aspects of culture like the role of nepotism, the status of women, how children are treated, which role religion plays, etc. In many of these questions, cultures other than my own are utterly vile and barbaric. To be fought tooth and nail. So a priori I'm not going to celebrate someone else's culture. A priori, his culture is probably a monstrosity. I'm willing to listen, and happy to be proved wrong. But I'm not going to celebrate it a priori, no more than I'm going to celebrate somebody else's ideology or religion. A priori, I'm not even going to respect it.If, on the other hand, one views culture like a tourist does (spicy food, exotic garb, cute jibberjabber language) then it's fine. But that's far down on my list of important cultural markers.Great post, Happy Ent. I would also say that it is likely this form of multiculturalism you speak of, that is being dejected by Merkel, Sarkozy and Cameron (and Leterme, too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Progressive Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I'm now envisioning Happy Ent's counterpart in some other country, on the internet, typing in another language, about how every culture other than his own is vile and barbaric. :lol:Lol, there are people like happyent everywhere in the interweb. I frequent an asian-entertainment forum and there are plenty of Chinese supremacists there who repeatedly harp about how American and European culture are inferior.This species isn't isolated on any particular geographic location, I tell you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosciuszko Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I think I can actually get behind the idea of the superiority of Arboryans. Everyone else is just so hasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexia Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Lol, there are people like happyent everywhere in the interweb. I frequent an asian-entertainment forum and there are plenty of Chinese supremacists there who repeatedly harp about how American and European culture are inferior.This species isn't isolated on any particular geographic location, I tell you that.Which is actually a great argument for multiculturalism, IMO. As long as we are off in our isolated corners of the internet, yapping about how all other cultures besides our own are vile and barbaric (and yes, there are plenty of Americans who believe that Europeans are vile and barbaric too!) all that gets accomplished is hating each other. Every culture out there has both positive and negative aspects, as does each and every human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo Targaryen Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 and yes, there are plenty of Americans who believe that Europeans are vile and barbaric too!And vice versa. Every culture out there has both positive and negative aspects, as does each and every human being.This, however, should not stop us from clearly naming these positive and negative aspects. It also means we should not unconditionally celebrate "diversity" if some elements of this diversity are negative. To say "there are people in the world who despise slavery and there are those who keep slaves; isn't it fine we are all so diverse" would be to forfeit an achievement many people have fought hard for and even paid with their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-for-Joffrey Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 cute jibberjabber languageWow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Wow...Jibber-Jabber certainely, but I don't know that english is cute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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