spork Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I just watched the extended trailer from EW, and in the beginning there is a fair amount of dialogue about the Others. However, they are always referred to as the 'white walkers'. I take no offense at the use of that term, as it is used interchangeably in the books. Just curious if the production team is avoiding use of the term 'the Others'. I know there was some talk of that here on the boards, related to the others of 'Lost' fame. Has anyone heard anything in any of the videos referring to our frosty friends as the 'Others'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep the Evicted Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 This is one change I definitely agree with. Sounds much better than "The Others" which actually sounds kind of cheesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LugaJetboyGirl Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Then will the curses change to "the white walkers take you"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieWife Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Isn't "The Others" capitalized in the books? Thus giving the reader the proper signal to "other" it in terms of meaning (no pun intended).On film, much more difficult. "Others" is so vague that it might lose people.That's my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spork Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 I agree, I quite like 'white walkers'. Has a very spooky vibe to it. Guess they'll have to develop a new epithet, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asha—Not Yara! Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Yeah, I agree on print Others works fine, but when spoken it could lend itself to confusion. I'm pretty sure they were referred to as "white walkers" in the books but nowhere near as much as Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieWife Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 I also like the way the way old Nan says "white walkers" in one of the trailers. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward the Great Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I also like the way the way old Nan says "white walkers" in one of the trailers. :)I think if she'd said "The Others" that people might interpret it as a racial thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 But isn't that just it? Isn't Martin fundamentally against whitey? The Others are pale and milky white and notice how all the whites - oh I'm sorry, "wights" - have evil icey-blue eyes. No hispanics or blacks or Asians amongst the horde of the undead are there?I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I also read on another board the change was made at least in part because Lost also had a group called the Others. Dunno if that's true. But it does also make sense to me just to clarify on screen, I'm fine with it. The Others always sounded off to me in the books anyway. Although if what we saw in the trailer was actually a White Walker, shouldn't it be more, you know, WHITE? Maybe Pale Walker would be better? I always pictured them as being extremely white in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I always pictured them as being extremely white in the books.Their faces don't seem to be white but the rest of them could easily be.I'd imagine they changed the name because of Lost. That's fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 But isn't that just it? Isn't Martin fundamentally against whitey? The Others are pale and milky white and notice how all the whites - oh I'm sorry, "wights" - have evil icey-blue eyes. No hispanics or blacks or Asians amongst the horde of the undead are there?I rest my case.heh, in all seriousness, I'm wondering as well if they will keep the name "wights". If we have "white walkers" and then "wights" it could confuse people. Might they be called just zombies? The undead? The Dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I'm thinking they'll simplifiy it down.to just one creature, eliminating or combining Wights into White Walkers (Others). There could still be different levels (strengths and intelligences) among WW, like how there are different levels of orc, but they wouldn't have to be explained or have a separate name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 I'm thinking they'll simplifiy it down.to just one creature, eliminating or combining Wights into White Walkers (Others). There could still be different levels (strengths and intelligences) among WW, like how there are different levels of orc, but they wouldn't have to be explained or have a separate name.How is this complicated? White Walkers are dangerous creatures. Wights are zombies that are in their thrall. Once you start talking about different levels of White Walkers and then things get complicated. :)Everyone is familiar with zombies. They are cool right now. Nevermind that it would undermine the whole threat if wights didn't exist. Or if the Others didn't exist (because facing brainless zombies isn't that terrible).Besides, Ran has already confirmed we will have wights, although yes, I think Trebla is right and they will rename them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asha—Not Yara! Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I wonder if they'll call wights zombies or something else. Since Others are going to be White Walkers, then wight which sounds like "white" could be confusing to viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howland_reed Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I wonder if they'll call wights zombies or something else. Since Others are going to be White Walkers, then wight which sounds like "white" could be confusing to viewers.Not a chance. Unspoken rule in any show/movie with the undead. You don't call the zombies, "zombies," otherwise the characters heads will explode out of sheer awesomeness of living in a comic book world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asha—Not Yara! Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 LOL. For some reason "zombie" would just feel out of place in a series like this one. I'm not sure why that is, but it does. What are other potential names for zombies? Undead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Not many Voudoun practicers in Westeros... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 heh, yeah I remember in Shaun of the Dead, they kept saying "You can't say the Z WORD!!"I kind of like just calling them "The Dead". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Areo Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I think there should be a distinction between the Others and the wighs. How they're called is a matter of debate, but at some point the term Others may have to be introduced. I don't think it'll be that confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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