Werthead Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 By the way, are we thinking that we have gotten confirmation of a Victarion POV? It certainly sounded like an interior thought process, whilst Ramsay going off on one was presumably from Reek's POV.And what do people make of Ramsay being back at Winterfell? What is he doing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'd think Ramsay was chasing down someone. I can't imagine the Kettleblacks leaving, and I really would be surprised if Tommen died this early. If only because that would mean a whole lot of story we would miss in KL while we're doing all this stuff in Essos and the Wall, and to be filled in about events like "Tommen died, we took off, kingdom in ruins" offscreen seems really, really odd.I think that for the most part we're done with KL new events. So I suspect this is in reference to prior ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWHamel Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'd be really amused if it were the two dwarves.Didn't Quentyn Martell see the dwarves in Volantis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scabbard Of the Morning Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 It could just be Theon's recollection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWHamel Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 By the way, are we thinking that we have gotten confirmation of a Victarion POV? It certainly sounded like an interior thought process, whilst Ramsay going off on one was presumably from Reek's POV.And what do people make of Ramsay being back at Winterfell? What is he doing there?Well, it sounded from the Reek chapter that he was taking a force to attack Moat Cailin from the North. So this could be on the way to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I don't think its a POV (The King killing siblings) - It sounds like someone talking in first person, and the POV listening. Kettleblacks is one guess, but its someone protesting innocence, and it seems odd for the KB's to refer to each other as 'my brother'. I think they've referred to each other by name elsewhere. Margaery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWHamel Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'd think Ramsay was chasing down someone. I can't imagine the Kettleblacks leaving, and I really would be surprised if Tommen died this early. If only because that would mean a whole lot of story we would miss in KL while we're doing all this stuff in Essos and the Wall, and to be filled in about events like "Tommen died, we took off, kingdom in ruins" offscreen seems really, really odd.I think that for the most part we're done with KL new events. So I suspect this is in reference to prior ones.They do have a brother to save from the Septon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 That's definitely a Victarion chapter. George mentioned several krakens, so it was expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWHamel Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I don't think its a POV (The King killing siblings) - It sounds like someone talking in first person, and the POV listening. Kettleblacks is one guess, but its someone protesting innocence, and it seems odd for the KB's to refer to each other as 'my brother'. I think they've referred to each other by name elsewhere. Margaery?It could be the dwarves, and Joffrey is the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 It could just be Theon's recollection.Reek = Theon.Given this is the spoiler thread we can probably just call him Theon anyway ;)Well, it sounded from the Reek chapter that he was taking a force to attack Moat Cailin from the North. So this could be on the way to do that.Except that Winterfell isn't on the way from the Dreadfort to Moat Cailin, unless you want to go hundreds of miles out of your way.Also, 'Lord' Ramsay? An honorific or is Roose dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWHamel Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 For Maggey the Frog's prophecy to come true, if Tommen does not die in DwD, then Tommen, Myrcella, and Cersei all have to die TWoW. Seems like the timing would be bad if that was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I don't think its a POV (The King killing siblings) - It sounds like someone talking in first person, and the POV listening. Kettleblacks is one guess, but its someone protesting innocence, and it seems odd for the KB's to refer to each other as 'my brother'. I think they've referred to each other by name elsewhere. Margaery?Margaery is my guess. I suspect she initially fled then returned to KL. But it is a big fat pink stretch to believe that Margaery feared torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWHamel Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Reek = Theon.Given this is the spoiler thread we can probably just call him Theon anyway ;)Except that Winterfell isn't on the way from the Dreadfort to Moat Cailin, unless you want to go hundreds of miles out of your way.Also, 'Lord' Ramsay? An honorific or is Roose dead?The quickest way is not always a straight line. You would want to go to the best road, and that would seem to me to be The Kingsroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 What if the "D" word is "Dragonslayer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWHamel Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 It could be Lord Ramsay, because he married Lady Hornwood before starving her to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 It could be Lord Ramsay, because he married Lady Hornwood before starving her to death.Tyrion was called Lord Tyrion several times by smallfolk long before Lord Tywin was dead. It could just be a style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartseverus Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I'm thinking the last word might be 'dead,' as in someone making a shocking announcement--like walking out of a tent to face an anxious and fearful group that's been wailing and praying it might be otherwise (as well as anxious and fearful readers wailing and praying it might be otherwise)--and uttering the dreadful words that indeed 'X is dead.' Now, there's a cliffhanger!When's WoW due out, exactly? :pimp: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronn Stone Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 I'm thinking the last word might be 'dead,' as in someone making a shocking announcement--like walking out of a tent to face an anxious and fearful group that's been wailing and praying it might be otherwise (as well as anxious and fearful readers wailing and praying it might be otherwise)--and uttering the dreadful words that indeed 'X is dead.' Now, there's a cliffhanger!But is "dead" spoilerific enough on its own to where Anne Groell would refuse to speak the word? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartseverus Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 But is "dead" spoilerific enough on its own to where Anne Groell would refuse to speak the word? I think not.No, not spoilerific at all. I'm thinking the publishers had worked out this whole 'give them a few hints to drive them mad' scenario in advance, no matter what the last word was going to be. Whatever, its just a theory. Do I get a virtual lemon cake if I'm right? (Just no pointy end if I'm wrong, please...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosciuszko Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 But is "dead" spoilerific enough on its own to where Anne Groell would refuse to speak the word? I think not.Its obviously a portmanteau of dead and Daenerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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