Xray the Enforcer Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Christ, I'm only up to page 253?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Stannis I Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Gods above, Roose Bolton is my favorite character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipsuel Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 not really sure how to get a moderator here -- i can't view profiles and message... just want to give someone a heads up -- i dont think there is a Bran 3 thread. (or there may be and I am just too blind to find it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLitke Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 not really sure how to get a moderator here -- i can't view profiles and message... just want to give someone a heads up -- i dont think there is a Bran 3 thread. (or there may be and I am just too blind to find it :-)There is, it took me awhile to find it too for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipsuel Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 There is, it took me awhile to find it too for some reason.Lol, it is good to know I am blind, but not blind alone ;-)I will look again! Thanks so much :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipsuel Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 ok, i must really be blind cuz i just looked again, and nothing. Zip. Ah well, I'm sure to see it at some point :)ETA: Found it! Thanks again :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkohaku Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I hope Reek will be Theon again and kill that bastard of Ramsay, i hate him has much has I hate Joffrey. Hope a slow and painfull death come to all the Boltons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malarky1231 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Man the conditions inside Moat Cailin are terrible. Even so they could've held on longer and bled the Boltons and Freys dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Skin Tongue Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 After Clash of Kings I never thought I would feel sorry for Theon Turncloak, but man it sucks to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipsuel Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 After Clash of Kings I never thought I would feel sorry for Theon Turncloak, but man it sucks to be him.Same here. I have to give it up to GRRM. The writing is so well done, one can't not feel sympathy for Theon. I am guessing that was no easy feat, kudos to him for getting the reader embrace him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malarky1231 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I never hated Theon, he was more of a tragic character for me, torn between his love for Robb and his own desire to win favor with his Father and his people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind and Words Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 So what is "that other thing" that Ramsay chopped off him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendaceum Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 ....His Greyjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind and Words Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 That was my first thought (that he's been gelded) but wouldn't he have made a bigger deal out of losing his manhood than a couple of fingers/toes? Or maybe it was so traumatic he just blocked it out... ....His Greyjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malarky1231 Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 They peeled his skin off. The whole torso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind and Words Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 What? Where does it say that? I must have missed itThey peeled his skin off. The whole torso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VarysTheSpider Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 My thought was that "the other thing" meant rape. In Reek 1 he thinks:If I say [my name] wrong, he'll take another finger, or worse, he'll... he'll... He would not think about that, could not think about that.So it sounds like something which is repeatable, and given what we know of what Ramsay and old Reek used to get up to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizfar Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 That makes sense. The way Ramsay treats him also points to that, calling him "my Reek", "my creature", and kissing him on the cheeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malarky1231 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Ugh, so Theon could be gelded and raped daily by the Bastard of Bolton. What a degenerate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebiros Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Was interesting to see just how sorry anyone trying to hold Moat Cailin will feel without support from the crannogmen. This was some serious guerilla going on there. Looking at the state of the Bolton/Frey army as described at the end of this chapter, I can't see how they will try to rule the North. The general population will not love anyone who basically exterminated their ancestral ruling family, and in a most treacherous manner. Added to that, the Bolton's probably weren't the most popular guys in the North to start with, and I doubt anyone feels they would make good overlords. At this point I think not one of the current contestants will stand a chance of keeping the North. Ironmen are lost, Boltons are lost. Stannis is probably lost too, as the numbers are against him and that red priestess of his isn't going to melt any ice around the Northmen's hearts, figuratively speaking. Maybe he has a chance if he goes on to win the northern mountain clans, as advised by Jon, maybe... but it'll be hard work all the way.Not a rosy future for the North. All i can see at the moment ist guerilla warfare, civil war, starvation and winter. Nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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