Xray the Enforcer Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 pg 741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanderpanda Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Victarions lost half his fleet but has turned up in Slavers Bay which is awesome. He has also managed to find the red priest from Tyrions chapters which is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hairy bear Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I wonder if Victarion's comments about "hating monkeys" are a reference to George's constant references to Kong and the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetruegod Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 think victerion's chapters were really good, especially the change in him after his meeting with the red preist. does anyone think he will have a larger role going forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirazi Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Victarions lost half his fleet but has turned up in Slavers Bay which is awesome. He has also managed to find the red priest from Tyrions chapters which is interesting.Good observation. I knew the name was familiar. Good chapter...can't wait to see how it all ties in. I think stuff will go down in Meereen, and Dany and crew will use Victarian's iron fleet to get back to westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind and Words Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 In one of the last lines, the red priest thinks he's seen "the wench wed, but it won't be the first time Victarion Greyjoy made a widow" - what does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Halfhand Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 That he's planning on murdering Dany's husband to make her a widow and carry her off to the iron islands.Step 2: Plunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacelord Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 what's up with victarion's hand? it was black and smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordswench Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 If Dany was hot for Daario with his obscene golden wantons on his sword hilts, she's really going to go wild for Victarion. He's like, the ultimate jerkface bad-boy. :smoking: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aegon the unworthy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 If Dany was hot for Daario with his obscene golden wantons on his sword hilts, she's really going to go wild for Victarion. He's like, the ultimate jerkface bad-boy. :smoking:Yeah right. A badass *still* afraid of his brother. But a butcher nonetheless.To paraphrase Tyrion, : "When do you think Dany will be most fertile? Before or after Victarion kills everyone she likes Rambo4 style?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo Jon Snow Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 In one of the last lines, the red priest thinks he's seen "the wench wed, but it won't be the first time Victarion Greyjoy made a widow" - what does this mean?Pretty sure it's just a reference to all of the men he's killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Is this the beginning of conversion of the Iron men from believing in the Drowned God to believing in R'hllor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo Targaryen Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 what's up with victarion's hand? it was black and smoking.Pick your favourite:Victarion has contracted blackscale. For now, it has only claimed his left hand, but in time his whole body will turn to coal until he looks like the red priest.To stop the wound from festering, the red priest has liberally cauterized the flesh around it.R'hllor has granted Victarion the Hand of Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-for-Joffrey Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Did anyone else find the paragraph long transition from third person limited to a third person omniscient perspective at the end of the chapter extremely jarring and abrasive, especially after approximately 4,500 pages of a strict limited perspective for each POV character? I thought this was a cop out so Martin didn't have to deal with writing about magic and explaining exactly what happened to Victarion and I find it pretty disappointing, especially this far into the story. It just felt so off, reading about events happening to a POV character second-hand. Although it was clearly blood magic and the similarities to what Mirri Maz Durr did to "save" Drogo are apparent. I wonder if the Dusky Woman was sacrificed to perform this spell? I find it interesting that the red temples delve into shadow binding and blood magic and all that nasty stuff. Up until now I had just assumed it was something that was unique to the red temples of Asshai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEvilKing Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 This chapter was awesome. I am one of the rare fans of Victarion's chapters. The ending confused the hell out of me but it was really cool. Shit is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD44Irish Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Did anyone else find the paragraph long transition from third person limited to a third person omniscient perspective at the end of the chapter extremely jarring and abrasive, especially after approximately 4,500 pages of a strict limited perspective for each POV character? No, in fact I quite missed it until you pointed it out. Where did it get omniscient? I can't see GRRM doing that by mistake. I wonder if it was deliberate, as in Victarion has gained some sort of power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD44Irish Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Pick your favourite:Victarion has contracted blackscale. For now, it has only claimed his left hand, but in time his whole body will turn to coal until he looks like the red priest.To stop the wound from festering, the red priest has liberally cauterized the flesh around it.R'hllor has granted Victarion the Hand of Fire.Is blackscale different from greyscale? I don't know if I'm familiar with blackscale. It didn't sound like greyscale. Are you assuming that the red priest had some sort of disease and that was why he was black? That's very interesting.And what is the hand of fire? Did I miss that one too. I thought that was another series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuliginEyes Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I really enjoy Victarion’s chapters – what a viking! His irritability and lack of easy humour is funny – also find it funny how much those monkeys piss him off.That ending was amazing though. So much is happening in this chapter, and it is frightening and thrilling all at once. I agree that maybe the dusky woman has been sacrificed in the procedure to heal his hand. And Victarion instructing the crew to throw their Maester overboard – maybe this is the beginning of the conversion of the Iron Islands to R’hollor? Moqorro is as dangerous as Melisandre – coming from the ocean like that… Love his ending line. If Dany was hot for Daario with his obscene golden wantons on his sword hilts, she's really going to go wild for Victarion. He's like, the ultimate jerkface bad-boy. :smoking:=)Did anyone else find the paragraph long transition from third person limited to a third person omniscient perspective at the end of the chapter extremely jarring and abrasive, especially after approximately 4,500 pages of a strict limited perspective for each POV character? I thought this was a cop out so Martin didn't have to deal with writing about magic and explaining exactly what happened to Victarion and I find it pretty disappointing, especially this far into the story. It just felt so off, reading about events happening to a POV character second-hand. That's a good point - yes it was slightly bizarre that GRRM chose to back away from Victarion's POV to a third person view when Moqorro was in there working sorcery on his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soitgoes Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I'm a big Vic fan :)So happy he finally gets in the action now i can't wait for him to show up to get Dany! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DragonKnight Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 pg 741I thought for sure Moqorro was dead. I wonder what's his role to play in all this, especially with Victarion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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