Riki Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Search function seems to be down at the moment, but I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are regarding Syrio's "death". Do you guys think he's dead?My guess is that he will somehow run into Arya again. He has this thing about "seeing" things as they truly are, and Arya's being trained to be a master of deception, so their meeting will in a sense be a test for the both of them. I hope that they don't have to mortally fight against one another. I get this sense that GRRM will make Syrio give Arya one final lesson, which she only learns through killing him. Some philosophical lesson about life and death and friends or whatever. That'd wreck me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selmy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Some people have brought of the possibility that Syrio is Jaqen. Not one of the theories I put much stock in. Who really knows? He's been gone for quite awhile. I would think that if he were going to come back we would have at least had a hint about him by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Syrio died whilst fighting Meryn Trant back in a Game of Thrones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeejee Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 If he's still alive (and I don't have strong feelings about it one way or the other), the chaos that surrounds the current Sealord's death could flush him out in the next book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahimiron Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Why is this ADWD spoilers? This is just the same conversation that has been had over and over for the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pow Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 You think if he died someone would have mentioned it. I expect him to reappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC_01 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Syrio is one of the only characters whose death we didn't directly witness who is most definitely dead. I wouldn't be mad if he turned out to still be alive, but I don't think he's he's Jaqen. The timing of Yoren drawing from the dungeons doesn't seem to match up with Syrio's apparent death. It could, I suppose, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Reed Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Syrio is one of the only characters whose death we didn't directly witness who is most definitely dead. I wouldn't be mad if he turned out to still be alive, but I don't think he's he's Jaqen. The timing of Yoren drawing from the dungeons doesn't seem to match up with Syrio's apparent death. It could, I suppose, but I doubt it.A lot of characters have died "off screen" that we're pretty sure are dead. But I think GRRM made this guy's death vague on purpose and it worked out pretty well considering people are still talking about him being alive.I loved Syrio Forel, but if it turns out he did not die and he comes back into Arya's life out of nowhere it would seem kind of lame, now. Better that he's dead and he dead pretty bad ass too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Cicero Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The Syrio as Jaqen theory makes no sense. Syrio was the first sword of Braavos, a famous and renowned warrior. Jaqen is obviously a faceless man. I just don't see how, barring any seriously contrived circumstances, they could be the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selmy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The Syrio as Jaqen theory makes no sense. Syrio was the first sword of Braavos, a famous and renowned warrior. Jaqen is obviously a faceless man. I just don't see how, barring any seriously contrived circumstances, they could be the same person.As I said, I don't put much stock in it. It's just one of those theories that gets brought up and argued over a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freygatarian Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The Syrio as Jaqen theory makes no sense. Syrio was the first sword of Braavos, a famous and renowned warrior. Jaqen is obviously a faceless man. I just don't see how, barring any seriously contrived circumstances, they could be the same person.We've seen in ADwD that Faceless Men can assume the identity of anyone's face they've "appropriated". Apparently they store some of the memories too, so it's possible Jaqen assumed the identity of the former first sword of Braavos, like he did with the maester in training, Pate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forseti Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 There's one huge difference between Pate and Syrio: Syrio was extremely accomplished, while Pate was a complete failure as a novice. That's likely why he chose to replace Pate, a useless student is the easiest person to replace without tripping up. He can just go on being useless, and everyone will just shake their heads and think: "That's Pate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serc Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Well, there's always the question of WHY Syrio was in Kings Landing in the first place. I always found that a bit suspicious. Seems like a dump; why choose to live there when there are nicer places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus of the South Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I think the answer to that question might revolve around why you would stop being the First Sword of Braavos when you're clearly still an awesome swordmaster.Something must've gone pretty wrong, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonalNoye Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Maybe Syrio was a child molester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 This topic does not contain any ADWD spoilers, is in the wrong forum, and has been done to death many times already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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