I.Know.Nothing Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 This is something that I have been wondering since getting into ASOIAF. Martin must have modeled them after some sort of culture in history. Here are my guesses for some of them:The North=SaxonWesterlands=GermanyIron Islands=Vikings(Martin said that himself)Dorne=MediterraneanThe Riverlands=EnglandFree Cities=PersiaThe Vale=ScandinavianAny other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard Walder Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Qarth is Constantinople. (I know it's not a country)Slaver's Bay is probably New York because they both speak bastardized versions of a great language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoDave Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Qarth is Constantinople. (I know it's not a country)Carthage.Great trading city-state with sandy desert behind its back and located at the crossroads of the maritime trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirhaka Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 braavos-venice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirhaka Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 summer islands-caribbean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurms McKenzie Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I would have said that the Westerlands resembled England........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard Walder Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I thought Dorne was always Spain after the Moors invaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evamitchelle Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Wildlings = Celts (yeah, not a country, but the Wildlings don't make up a country either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chise Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Ancient Valyria is obviously the Roman Empirewith their "high valyrian" being the base language that was bastardized into languages of the Free Cities (latin to romance languages), and then highborn kids learning that from Maesters (anyone ever suffer thru latin in school?!) the famous stone roads spanning far and being so usable even centuries later and so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoDave Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 North and the First Men in general - Britons (Andals = Anglo-Saxons)Iron Isles - Vikings obviouslyVale - Scotland (feudalism in the lowland, unruly clans in the highland)Westerlands - England since 1066 (after the Norman invasion)Reach - FranceDorne - Persia put into European context (during Sassanian period Persia had knighthood culture not unlike later European one)Free Cities - Mediterranean city-states like Venice, Genoa, Dubrovnik, etc.Valyria - Rome, and High Valyrian language is Latin, while various dialects developing into languages in the Free Cities are the Romanic languages that developed from the Latin dialects during the Middle Ages.Slavers Bay - the Levant/ Middle EastDothraki - nomads of the great steppes between Ukraine and Mongolia. Which is Scythians, Sarmatians, and various Turkic and Mongolic tribes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediocre cheese Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Slaver's Bay is probably New York because they both speak bastardized versions of a great language.Go fuck yourself. If anyone fucks english up its Bostonians. Its a car not a caaaaar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chise Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Go fuck yourself. If anyone fucks english up its Bostonians. Its a car not a caaaaar.heeeeeeey now, we dun butcher English that bad up here!! now what the deep-South does to the language, thats a whole different storybesides, on the logic of crazy cheap workforce with a butchered language, anywhere on Mexican border would win then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalais Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Crownlands = ByzantiumKings Landing = ConstantinopleThe Westlands = Spain/Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackseer Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I've said this before and I still believe it.Tywin Lannister represents the USA during the 20th century (the great wars and the cold one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard Walder Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I've said this before and I still believe it.Tywin Lannister represents the USA during the 20th century (the great wars and the cold one).Except the US helped rebuild Japan and Germany after WWII (learning from their mistakes from WWI), while Tywin didn't do much to help the Houses he defeated/destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chise Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 because I clearly have too much time on my hands, another location just came to mindThe Sorrows aka Chroyane - Atlantis (hey, its ancient, legendary and very much drowned)Valeria - Pompeii duuuh, The Doom and buried treasures (sorry, been staring at ads on subway for a Pomeii thing at MoS too long) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJM89 Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 The North = Pre-Norman England. Anglo-Saxon. The harrowing of the North comes be mind. :-(The first man would be a merging of Celtic and Anglo-Saxon. Whilst the Wildlings would be Celtic.The Riverlands = Post Norman EnglandWesterlands = Post Norman England as well, specifically 1337 and the start of the hundred year war. As well as Arch-Duchy of Austria under Charles V.The Iron Isles = Viking Denmark, Sweden and Norway.Dorne = Spain with its differing parts. Castille, Leon = The stony Dornish i.e Christian spain. Aragon/Catalonia = salty dornish. Andulusia and those of moorish lineage (sp) = Sandy Dornish.Vale = Scotland. The aristocracy being Anglo-Scots (lowlands) whilst the mountain tribes would be highland scots or celtic similar to the Widlings of the North.The Reach = Capetian France post 1066 until the 13th Century. Weak ruler in Mace Tyrell with strong vassals where the rest of his family makes the decisions.The Seven Kingdoms = The Empire of Justinian followed by that of Charlesmagne and finally the Holy Roman Empire. Where power of the Emperor has gone to only those of his vassals. From that then Kings Landing could be Constantinople as its a continuation of Valyria through the Targaryen Dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackseer Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Except the US helped rebuild Japan and Germany after WWII (learning from their mistakes from WWI), while Tywin didn't do much to help the Houses he defeated/destroyed.He tryed to help rebuild the Riverlands and the North, forgave the Freys and the Boltons who had been his enemies (Joff wanted their heads even after the Red Wedding). The problem is that he died a few chapters after.Edit: put quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Lion Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 North - IrelandReach - FranceWesterlands - Germany/EnglandThe Vale - SwitzerlandIron Islands - VikingsBraavos - Venice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unhit Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Carthage.Great trading city-state with sandy desert behind its back and located at the crossroads of the maritime trade.Wasn't that desert-ish back then, actually ancient Rome got a lot of corn from Northern Africa.North: Non-raiding viking parts pre 1000, and early celtic - Ireland? (not just because of the TV series ;))Riverlands: France/Belgium/Germany (especially because of the resemblance to the situation in the 30-years-war)West: England/Netherlands/Belgium/Northwestern GermanyReach: Northern Italy (Milano etc.)Vale: France (given their huge appraisal of chivalry)Dorne: Spain, plus some stuff from further east (I like the Persian note someone mentioned)Stormlands: Baltic States (?)Northern Free Cities: Russia(?)Valyria: definitely agree with Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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