Blaer Dayle Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 In the last chapter of the book,the chapter opens with Bran Warging through Summer, who is watching the burning of Winterfell. He looks into the sky, and sees"a great winged snake whose roar was a river of flame. He bared his teeth, but then the snake was gone"Could this be another dragon? Just wondering, what with all the old powers returning, and whatnot. Why not have an ancient dragon from the North awaken from a deep Slumber and show up later in the series. I haven't read past the end of aCOK yet so no spoilers if they are too much, some small spoilers are okay. I was just wondering if this shape is explained or brought up again later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanTasy Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 In the last chapter of the book,the chapter opens with Bran Warging through Summer, who is watching the burning of Winterfell. He looks into the sky, and sees"a great winged snake whose roar was a river of flame. He bared his teeth, but then the snake was gone"Could this be another dragon? Just wondering, what with all the old powers returning, and whatnot. Why not have an ancient dragon from the North awaken from a deep Slumber and show up later in the series. I haven't read past the end of aCOK yet so no spoilers if they are too much, some small spoilers are okay. I was just wondering if this shape is explained or brought up again later.It could be the comet Bran/Summer sees that is described so often in ACOK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Baratheon. Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It could be the comet Bran/Summer sees that is described so often in ACOK.I also took it for this, i doubt grrm would add a random dragon in the freezing cold north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lions-and-Roses Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I viewed it as the comet... Personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornish Law Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 nthing the comet interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtopher Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 So are you saying the comet lasted only a few seconds?If the wolf only noticed it for the first time there, then it woulve lasted only a few seconds unless a "bare of teeth" lasts hours or weeks lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaer Dayle Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 So are you saying the comet lasted only a few seconds?If the wolf only noticed it for the first time there, then it woulve lasted only a few seconds unless a "bare of teeth" lasts hours or weeks lol.I was just going to believe the comet theory, but this got me thinking again. It's true, Summer definitely would have noticed the comet months before. I don't see how we can discount anything unless explicitly stated by GRRM. He's always taking unexpected turns, like the death of Ned, orASOS Spoilersthe deaths of Balon, Catelyn, Robb and Joffrey just to name a fewRemember the old magics are stirring again, so some old spell may have kept a dragon at bay, but lost power over time allowing it to come back, much like the others re-awakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvik Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Somehow I never thought much about this, but it does bring up some interesting thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtopher Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Or maybe Summer never saw it before then because he doesnt really have to gaze at the sky in his "everyday activities" lol.Knowing that he´s always in the deep woods and hunting and running around...Maybe he only managed to catch it just then before it disappeared cause he was watching Winterfell burn so obviously he was looking up toward the smoke and flames.is that a stretch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsSand Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I don't think a comet would fit the description. A comet looks like a dot with a tail, not something anyone would describe as having wings. The tail count be interperted as a river of flame, but it would not be described as a roar. First a roar is a sound, not a visible trait, so I think Summer heard it as he saw it. Second, it would be coming from his head, not the tail end. Also, the was it disappeared leads me to think it was not the comet. I don't think comets just go away like that. I think they slowly travel across the sky and out of sight. The snake seemed to go in responce to Summer bearing his teeth.I have wondered about this for a long time, and no it does not appear again in the rest of the published books. (I hope that is not too much of a spoiler!) I think it has to appear again though if it was hinted at once already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beneath the Gold Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Or maybe Summer never saw it before then because she doesnt really have to gaze at the sky in her "everyday activities" lol.Knowing that she´s always in the deep woods and hunting and running around...Maybe she only managed to catch it just then before it disappeared cause she was watching Winterfell burn so obviously she was looking up toward the smoke and flames.is that a stretch?Summer's a dude. ;)The "winged snake" may just have been Summer's wolfy way of describing a high-leaping flame... On the other hand, yes, he might have caught a glimpse of the ominous comet through the otherwise opaque fire and smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtopher Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Summer's a dude. ;)The "winged snake" may just have been Summer's wolfy way of describing a high-leaping flame... On the other hand, yes, he might have caught a glimpse of the ominous comet through the otherwise opaque fire and smoke.thanx for that, i always forget. I have a girlfriend named Summer so i get confused.And i really dont think it was a dragon what he saw... dont know why, i just dont buy it. it was still the comet for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurthnar Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Calling anything "winged" could be very well connected with the fact, that it is travelling across the sky, rather than actually having wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegon I Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Summer's a dude. ;)The "winged snake" may just have been Summer's wolfy way of describing a high-leaping flame... On the other hand, yes, he might have caught a glimpse of the ominous comet through the otherwise opaque fire and smoke.When Someone is warging they are completely in control of all thier senses and control all movement of their host.This makes the dragon theory very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roaring Bear Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I took this as a vision of the future, for when Dany brings her dragons across.I mean, would it be so far fetched for a warg to have a green dream whilst warging out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ygrette Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Hrrrrm, interesting.Thought about that only briefly and explanations in my own brain stretched over:1) the comet - remember, it's all smoking and burning and if you see something in the sky, it may very well be blurred or gone in an instant without actually moving2) a "green" element as a side effect of running around with an open third eye3) and since I haven't read far into ASoS yet and have no idea where Dany actually is at the moment, I even thought it could be Dany... I guess not? ;)4) a raven blurred by smoke and fire5) NIDHOGGUR!So far, it just doesn't make much sense. Nice catch!Greetings,Steph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wight Walker Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I never really thought much on that actually.If it is a dragon I can't imagine it's going to be fighting on the good guy's side though.But I guess if Dany and her dragons do come over they are going to need a worth adversary....yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colibri Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I don't think so, up until now I just assumed that it was Summer's way of describing the smoke and the flames. A dragon doesn't really make much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brielle Baratheon Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 I agree with Snow Ghost, I just think it was Summers way of making sense of what he was seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Beyond The Wall Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I never gave it a second thought, since it was clear to me that it was an interpretation of some leaping flame mixed with smoke or something...Remember the night that Theon infiltrated Winterfell, Bran was having an other warg dream, and when Summer was trying to open th Iron door of the Godswood he saw "a metal snake" holding it, which was obviously a chain.So yes, while warging Bran can see, smell, taste, feel, anything Summer does, but he can also hear his thoughts, much like "Being John Malkovic" at the beginning, Bran can't fully control Summer (yet?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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