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NBA 2011-2012 Season

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Portland is so cursed.

They were looking so loaded a few years back. Now Roy has retired, they've finally severed ties with Oden who may never play again, and they've let McMillan go at the top. They still have Aldridge to build around, and Nic Batum is a nice asset, but it does seem like they're in complete rebuilding mode now.

It is a bit surprising to see how far Portland has fallen. They had the world on the platter a few years ago. They were supposed to be what OKC is now and maybe woulda been had they taken Durant. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and hard to chalk up what happened to Oden and Roy as anything more than horrendous luck.

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It is a bit surprising to see how far Portland has fallen. They had the world on the platter a few years ago. They were supposed to be what OKC is now and maybe woulda been had they taken Durant. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and hard to chalk up what happened to Oden and Roy as anything more than horrendous luck.

So, speaking of "how far they have fallen", Agent 0 is back:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17908203/report-grizzlies-to-sign-gilbert-arenas

23 games left, $300k, just over $1mm for a full season. Might be worth the risk as long as he has bought a gun cabinet in the interim.

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There has always been speculation some teams tanked years to get a better draft pick (SA). This however seems to be one that wouldbe eminently provable:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_stephen_curry_warriors_out_ankle_032812

If the Drs clear Curry to play and he doesn't, I've got to think that would raise eyebrows and questions. Not to mention the fans view, actually, I think they are stilled boo'd out after the Mullins # retirement.

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And in this weeks version of WTF....the Celtics are in first place? holy crap the east is full of suckitude.

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Incredible performance again by Oklahoma to beat Chicago Bulls. They were up some 35 points after the 3rd quarter and took off both Durant and Westbrook, allowing the Bulls to close the gap to 14 points. Seen a couple of really impressive matches from Oklahoma lately, they also thoroughly took apart the Miami Heat two weeks ago. Amazing team. Ibaka, Perkins and Harden are very good players next to the two superstars as well.

Miami Heat beaten again, this time by Celtics. Orlando also beaten. Celtics have been on a bit of a roll lately. As have the San Antonio Spurs btw, they are on an incredible streak.

So it looks like the playoff teams may look like this ( if I understand it correctly)

West:

Oklahoma

San Antonio

La Lakers

La Clippers

Dallas

Memphis

Denver

Houston

East:

Chicago

Miami

Orlando

Indiana

Atlanta

Boston

Philadelphia

New York

Excellent players that to me seem like they should be transferring to a truly top side:

Kevin Love ( incredible player)

Kyrie Irving

John Wall

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Kevin Love ( incredible player)

I will be suprised if he leaves MN - they are putting him in place to replace Garnett as the all time Face Of, with good reason. When he came out of UCLA I really thought he'd be a good, above average player but nothing to write home about. Even if the ppg are a product of the team he is on, averaging more than 12 rebounds for his career so far is pretty bad ass. It would be a lot of fun to see this kid surrounded with some more talent.

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So it looks like the playoff teams may look like this ( if I understand it correctly)

West:

Oklahoma

San Antonio

La Lakers

La Clippers

Dallas

Memphis

Denver

Houston

East:

Chicago

Miami

Orlando

Indiana

Atlanta

Boston

Philadelphia

New York

If these are the playoff teams, that would mean 14 of the 16 teams that qualified last year make the playoffs this year as well. (the other two teams are New Orleans and Portland).

Will Utah be able to pass either Denver or Houston in the standings (they're currently 1.5 games behind both of them)?

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So little going on in the NBA right now that a Bulls 2 game losing streak is news.

And this just in: Blake Griffin isn't human. Wish I could link the follow up dunk he had last night with his eyes level with the rim.

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This is what you mean:

Great player. Really big guy at 6'9 or 6'10, and then tremendously athletic. My brother-in-law is freakishly tall really at 6' 8.5, and he doesn't have the muscularity or athletic ability of Griffin by a long shot. But as a 6'2 guy myself I am overwhelmed by his size when I get close to him. Pretty amazing to consider that you've got 6 ft point guards who have to make their way past these giants.

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Melo had one of those games that reminds everyone why he's a top 10 talent in the NBA and absolutely buried the Bulls. Those threes were so fucking clutch.

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That was painful. I'm not used to seeing Rose and Deng both choke. They both have been clutch. But this time they did and Carmelo made them pay. I'm glad this is a home and home. They play again at the UC on Tuesday. Hopefully they can return the favor. Good win for the Knicks.

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3 games up with 10 to play and the Sxers are looking like yesterdays fish. I would never have guessed that the Celtics could have actually hosted a playoff series this year and right now they're looking at a first round with Atlanta.

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Grr, why won't you lose, Knicks! I want a lottery pick from you!

On the plus side though, Houston is now 2 games up on 9th spot...looking better and better for a playoff place :).

ST

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Anyone else see the Stan van Gundy/Dwight Howard media circus? Never been a huge fan of SVG, but he now vaults into top 5 for my favorite coaches. Dude had no power, was at the mercy of ownership, just twisting in the wind...then completely reverses it by nonchalantly admitting in public that Howard demanded he be fired. Then Howard doesn't know that he did it, and got blindsided by the press after putting his arm around SVG. Classic.

I'm sure ever coach, assistant, water boy, etc. who has ever been hung out to dry by a superstar was on their feet cheering SVG on.

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Im so sick of Dwight Howard and all the bullshit surrounding him and the Magic. The SVG thing was amusing in its awkwardness but enough with these clowns already. Let's focus on the teams and players that want to WIN this year.

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Im so sick of Dwight Howard and all the bullshit surrounding him and the Magic. The SVG thing was amusing in its awkwardness but enough with these clowns already. Let's focus on the teams and players that want to WIN this year.

Well, I guess that leaves out me and my Cavaliers. We're driving that Sherman right on through till the lottery, baby!

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And.... Odom finally was cut today by Mark Cuban. This guy was an absolute disaster. Watching him play games this season has been one of the most frustrating things in sports to me. What an incredible waste of space. Dude was caught several times on the court yawning... literally yawning. I hope his actions have consequences and that he is out of the game for good.

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Odom is a mess. IDK who even takes a chance on him; the Lakers could probably, but would he even play for them again? Beyond that, who the hell is going to believe they can get production out of him?

Watch him become a Net by next season. Stamp it.

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Im so sick of Dwight Howard and all the bullshit surrounding him and the Magic

Indeed. Even as a recent ( but devoted) NBA follower I have to say this is a total farce. With the transfer window just having ended, and Howard just having signed a new contract with Orlando, why in the world would he now want to leave and requesting for his contract to be annulled? That makes zero sense to me. He either wants to stay, or he doesn't, and if he didn't, he could have gone during the transfer window.

A shame, because he really is a great player.

Great match between the Knicks and the Bulls btw. Carmelo Anthony was superb, Derrick Rose back after 12 matches absence for the Bulls.

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Knicks play the Bulls again tonight. And then play the most important game of the season vs the Bucks on Wed.

Cal, i think you are slightly confused by the Howard stuff. Hie didn't sign a new contract, just agreed to play out the final year of his existing deal. He basically had a player's out clause in his 5 year deal, where he could have opted out after the 4th year to test the free agent market. Secondly, he didn't ask for his newly signed extension to be annulled. The most recent drama surrounded Howard's request to upper management to replace his head coach, Stan Van Gundy, who is a pretty damn good coach but has a attitude that is very different from Dwight's own.

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