thetitansbastard Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Wasn't Syrio former First Sword of Braavos? To me, this puts a bit of a dent in the FM theoryIt takes less work to have Syrio survive than it does to make a lot of theories people take as gospel here. \I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swaggering Bravo Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Syrio = Jaqen H'ghar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Wasn't Syrio former First Sword of Braavos? To me, this puts a bit of a dent in the FM theoryI agreeHow do we know the Syrio we see is the real Syrio and not a faceless man posing as the famous Syrio Farrell, former first sword of Bravos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Syrio = Jaqen H'gharAmen, Brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 "Only one of the guards managed to get a blade out. Jaqen danced away from his slash, drew his own sword, drove the man back into a corner with a flurry of blows, and killed him".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBallin Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Could be Arya sees through the Kindly Man and sees Syrio. But that's a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 When we leave Syrio and Meryn they are dancing around, and Syrio's lead-cored stick has been cut off short. Syrio had been raining blows off Meryn's armor while not being seriously threatened. Previously Meryn as said Syrio is quick for a dancing master and the reply was that Meryn was slow for a knight. Syrio also had a dagger picked up from one of the Lannister guards and could probably slipped that through gaps in Meryn's armor to deadly effect, but since Meryn is around later that doesn't happen. I just don't see Meryn being able to kill Syrio at this point. Kinda like the Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamBridge Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I kind of like the Syrio=Meryn trant idea.Just because after we see the two of them fighting theres no mention of that fight ever happening from anyone in KL, you thing trant would have mentioned to somone that he had killed the first sword of braavos, that kind of thing seems like kind of a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arya horsefaceless Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 To make such a show of his skill and how he faces off armored men with a wooden sword, and then not show the drama of him succumbing and saving Arya by putting himself out there and outnumbered in such a brave, selfless moment.Fishy to me.Also, I listened to the background sounds in the show during that scene. Martin detail paranoia kicking in full time, and I heard metal dropping. Could totally be me though.Also, we read about so many deaths in every gory detail in the series, why not his?It was metal dropping in the show, and that sort of had me buying into the he's alive theory a little. I really wouldnt be shocked either way, but it would be an odd coincidence that of all the free cities to end up in Arya ended up in the same city that Syrio is from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViennaGirl Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I'm re-reading ASOS and I think the Kindly man might be Syrio. The whole switching faces thing - that's a cheat like polyjuice potion. Anyone can be anyone. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I'm re-reading ASOS and I think the Kindly man might be Syrio. The whole switching faces thing - that's a cheat like polyjuice potion. Anyone can be anyone. Meh.You think the Kindly man is Syrio based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 It was metal dropping in the show, and that sort of had me buying into the he's alive theory a little. I really wouldnt be shocked either way, but it would be an odd coincidence that of all the free cities to end up in Arya ended up in the same city that Syrio is from.not really, its because the two my influential (non-family) people in her life are from Braavos that she ends up there. Not to mention that she was trying to get to the wall when she went. I think its funny, that when Jon is trying to save her he thinks of sending to to Braavos. Also, I hope Ramsay gets to meet her one day. The only problem is she'd kill him to fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbon Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Errant like to get superior with people.Its just tiredness with another round of the same old weak arguments about Syrio.Exacerbated because the show reference brings it up again which is really stupid (and therefore even more annoying) since Syrio's philosophy in the show is the opposite of the Faceless Men Creed. Syrio's line on the show, " What to we say to the god of death - not today" is defying death (with bravado, fitting for Bravosi), whereas the FM worship death, are happy to give it out and live by 'valar Morghulis" - All men must die".For all you newcomers, Syrio is dead, 99%. Alive, 1%. He only gets that 1% because we didn't see him physically die, since our POV had run away as she was instructed to.Instead of trying to make weak and pathetic arguments that have been countered a million times before, read some of these threads first at least.http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/51957-syrio-forel-meryn-trant/http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/48842-syrio-forel-a-warg/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Its just tiredness with another round of the same old weak arguments about Syrio.Exacerbated because the show reference brings it up again which is really stupid (and therefore even more annoying) since Syrio's philosophy in the show is the opposite of the Faceless Men Creed. Syrio's line on the show, " What to we say to the god of death - not today" is defying death (with bravado, fitting for Bravosi), whereas the FM worship death, are happy to give it out and live by 'valar Morghulis" - All men must die".For all you newcomers, Syrio is dead, 99%. Alive, 1%. He only gets that 1% because we didn't see him physically die, since our POV had run away as she was instructed to.Instead of trying to make weak and pathetic arguments that have been countered a million times before, read some of these threads first at least.http://asoiaf.wester...64-syrio-forel/http://asoiaf.wester...o-forel-jaquen/http://asoiaf.wester...el-jaqen-hghar/http://asoiaf.wester...el-meryn-trant/http://asoiaf.wester...erending-fight/http://asoiaf.wester...-is-syrio-dead/http://asoiaf.wester...o-forel-a-warg/Meh. Based on that logic Jaqen shouldn't have said anything and burned to death happily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daario Targaryen Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 hes dead jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBallin Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Its just tiredness with another round of the same old weak arguments about Syrio.Exacerbated because the show reference brings it up again which is really stupid (and therefore even more annoying) since Syrio's philosophy in the show is the opposite of the Faceless Men Creed. Syrio's line on the show, " What to we say to the god of death - not today" is defying death (with bravado, fitting for Bravosi), whereas the FM worship death, are happy to give it out and live by 'valar Morghulis" - All men must die".For all you newcomers, Syrio is dead, 99%. Alive, 1%. He only gets that 1% because we didn't see him physically die, since our POV had run away as she was instructed to.Instead of trying to make weak and pathetic arguments that have been countered a million times before, read some of these threads first at least.http://asoiaf.wester...64-syrio-forel/http://asoiaf.wester...o-forel-jaquen/http://asoiaf.wester...el-jaqen-hghar/http://asoiaf.wester...el-meryn-trant/http://asoiaf.wester...erending-fight/http://asoiaf.wester...-is-syrio-dead/http://asoiaf.wester...o-forel-a-warg/Could be he left the service of the Many-Faced God and became the First Sword of Braavos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Could be he left the service of the Many-Faced God and became the First Sword of Braavos.Could be he retired as first sword and went on to serve the many faced god. Could the actual Syrio is running a sell sword company somewhere and a faceless man assumed his identity in order to join Eddard Stark's employ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 hes dead jimi mean its whatever. I still see no logical reason why Syrio doesn't pick up one of the swords on the ground. i don't really care if he's alive or not i didn't particularly like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBallin Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Could be, but when Martin on touches on something like this lightly, something is afoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Littlefinger's Lash Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 i mean i used to assume people were dead, based the last time Arya saw them... and the game the hound/grave digger. No one is dead unless we see them die... and even then like as not they'll come back as some zombie powered by either ice or fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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