Batman Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Who do you think is the best person to lead an army into war?Ned StarkTywin LannisterBrynden TullyStannis BaratheonRobb StarkRobert BaratheonRandall TarlyFeel free to name any that I may have missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Randyll Tarly "First in battle": who win a battle only with the vanguard must be a competend military commander, maybe the best in westeros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderly is Boss Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Into a war? Tywin Lannister. Into a battle? Either Randyll Tarly or Ned Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Aegon the Conqueror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Stark Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Randyll Tarly, all the way. He's harsh, but fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 On the evidence so far, Lord Tywin. He keeps his nerve, even when defeated, and continues to plan how to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan I Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Stannis baratheon 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertOfTheHouseBaratheon Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Robert, a man that can turn his enemies into his staunchest friends after one night is a man to fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 As some have mentioned, there are different kinds of leaders for different kinds of settings. I'll do top 3 for each in terms of who I'd want based on what we know within the time frame of the books;As an overall wartime leader, ie the administrative leader for an entire war: Tywin Lannister, Brynden Tully, Stannis BaratheonAs a campaign leader, ie not a specific battle, but a specific phase of war: Ned Stark, Robb Stark, Brynden TullyAs a battlefield commander on land: Randyl Tarly, Jon Connington, Robb StarkAs a unit commander or vanguard commander: Adam Marbrand, Randyl Tarly, Jaime Lannister or the Halfhand. As a naval commander: VIctarion Greyjoy, Stannis Baratheon, eh...tougher...Paxter Redwyne musters a great fleet, but nothing special other than that seen so far. Euron seems good but unreliable. Maybe Asha.I've left out Robert because its hard to pin down exactly what kind of commander he was. I don't mean in terms of quality...he was clearly inspirational and exceptional...but the stories seem contradictory in terms of how he actually commaded. He's a battlefield commander who leads from the front, but rarely on horse. That's a pretty tough thing to do unless you're defending an established position because you can't see much and your men mostly can't see you. So I need more specifics to characterize him.Also Jon Snow is rapidly rising as an all-arounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Robert, a man that can turn his enemies into his staunchest friends after one night is a man to fearWich enemie did he turn into his friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qhorin Halfhand and Yoren Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 As some have mentioned, there are different kinds of leaders for different kinds of settings. I'll do top 3 for each in terms of who I'd want based on what we know within the time frame of the books;As an overall wartime leader, ie the administrative leader for an entire war: Tywin Lannister, Brynden Tully, Stannis BaratheonAs a campaign leader, ie not a specific battle, but a specific phase of war: Ned Stark, Robb Stark, Brynden TullyAs a battlefield commander on land: Randyl Tarly, Jon Connington, Robb StarkAs a unit commander or vanguard commander: Adam Marbrand, Randyl Tarly, Jaime LannisterAs a naval commander: VIctarion Greyjoy, Stannis Baratheon, eh...tougher...Paxter Redwyne musters a great fleet, but nothing special other than that seen so far. Euron seems good but unreliable. Maybe Asha.Your list lacks Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I'd stay Stannis or Tywin. Both have good track records, and Stannis has managed to do a LOT with a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Your list lacks Robert.Lol, edited to explain omission before I saw your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayce Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I would have to say Robb Stark, he has shown that he can win and make sacrifice as well as still plan on how to win, his downfall was that damned wedding!Otherwise I pretty much agree with what James Arryn wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I would have to say Robb Stark, he has shown that he can win and make sacrifice as well as still plan on how to win, his downfall was that damned wedding!Otherwise I pretty much agree with what James Arryn wrote.Robb and Jon showed tons of potential.Robb clearly learned from Ned, but in addition to Ned's advanced planning and immediate leaderhip skills he'd added a brilliance with fast-hitting aggressive/decisive moves. I think that part he learned from the Blackfish, but it made a pretty amazing combination.Putting it all at risk because of a seduction would detract from how reliable you can consider him as an overall war commander, but he was just 15.Jon's another interesting blend. Again, a lot learned from Ned, but where Robb added the Blackfish's aggression and bold campaign moves, Jon (from where I don't know...) added serious lateral thinking and progressive strategic flexibility. He's not yet good enough that I'd rely on him ahead of any of the guys on the above list in those spheres, but its also amazing that he could be considered for all of them, even overall war commander. His reforms of the NW, his advice to Stannis etc. all show an ability to see the entire field of operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertOfTheHouseBaratheon Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Wich enemie did he turn into his friend?I'll have to find the quote but during the rebellion Aerys sent two Lords to supress Robert's forces, Robert defeated their armies and invited them to the victory feast. By the end they had switched sides, stayed loyal to him through the rebellion and both even lost sons putting down the Greyjoy rebellion for Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I would have to say Robb Stark, he has shown that he can win and make sacrifice as well as still plan on how to win, his downfall was that damned wedding!If you give up 15% of your army to be able to marry the hot girl during a vicious war, you are a terrible war time leader in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisDantas Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 It is a toss-up between Lord Randyll Tarly or Brynden Tully.Stannis and Tywin are both ruthless, which makes them self-destructive. And it shows.Robert is too impulsive and easily manipulated.Ned and Robb will be better, but only because they will avoid the war entirely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Elfor the Landstander Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 So basically the question is: who would you choose to command your army?I'd say it's between Tywin Lannister and Stannis Baratheon.If I had to choose only one, Tywin Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 What exactly did Tywin do to earn a reputation as a great war leader? He only won the war thanks to the shadowbaby and Tyrion and LF arranging the Tyrell alliance. If not for that, he was screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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