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Ser Dermett Corbray

[Book Spoilers] Fist of the First Men

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So we finally saw the ancient stronghold in the show. Very epic I thought. As Sam said, beautiful views, even if they are equally deadly.

Couldn't help but compare it to my own imagination and how it's current location will affect the story.

Firstly, it seems to be more of a mountain than a hill. There is a sheer drop on one side meaning there will only be one direction from which you can enter and exit the stronghold. When the wights attack the encampment later on, how will Sam etc flee if there is only one way they can go? Down the sheer cliff face?

Yeah, I never expected it to be that tall. A certain fan artist would disagree with me though: http://www.fantasyartists.org/Images/FullSize/000000000/Img559_FistoftheFirstMen.jpg

Looks kind of similar to the TV fortress.

I always imagined a fortress in amongst the woods upon a small but imposing hill. Something like a Norman motte and bailey as we'd see them in our own times, aged and ruinous. Something like this: http://images.suite101.com/1739316_com_castle_acr.jpg

Or this: http://www.heritage-explorer.co.uk/file/he/content/upload/database/1114_450.jpg

Or this: http://www.ecastles.co.uk/christchurch1.jpg

But obviously with more snow etc.

Just some observations. What did everybody else think of the show's Fist?

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Really breathtaking location they found. I also imagined it to be in the midst of a great forest, but when your get to have spectacular shots like these, does it really matter?

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My guess is that , well I am sure it does, Island has to have a landscape close to what George describes.

But they went for the most cinematic-ally spectacular setting they set their eyes on.

The Frostfangs look right but figured they were more in the distance.

All the action at Fist takes place in SoS gives time to build a sort of semi fortress , because right now they look totally exposed.

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I think it was beautiful. But... It's supposed to be in a thick forest (that Jon thought looked like an enemy army ready to storm the hill) as mentioned, and the white walkers never left the forest in the books. They kept hidden among the trees. And in the books, on the top of the fist the brothers kept fires alive for all the north to see, which could be significant?

The cloak bundle Ghost found for Jon found was new, in a newly dug hole that looked like a shallow grave. Important?

In the show it seems like a very weird place to choose to build camp since it is not explained why Mormont chose that place specifically.

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