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From the Ygritte page:

South of the Wall, at Queenscrown, Styr's band comes upon a lone knight, whom they capture. Styr, still suspicious of Jon's true loyalties, orders Jon to slay the man. Jon refuses, and Ygritte slits the man's throat instead. In the confusion created by a raging thunderstorm and the sudden emergence of Summer, Bran Stark's direwolf, Jon escapes, despite Ygritte shooting him in the leg with an arrow as he starts to run.

Ygritte continues to Castle Black with Styr's band, but Jon has forewarned the castle of their arrival and the attack is thwarted. Along with the rest of the wildling band, Ygritte is killed, mortally wounded by an arrow. Jon finds her on the battlefield, where she dies in his arms.[4]

From the Jon Snow page:

After scaling the wall, he gets the opportunity to escape as the wildlings are attacked bySummer in the vicinity of the abandoned Queenscrown. He manages to escape in the confusion on a horse, but not before taking an arrow in the leg.

Jon survives his arrow wound and reaches Castle Black, where he learns that his brothers, Bran and Rickon, have died at the command of Theon Greyjoy. There he helps Donal Noye in the Defence of Castle Black against Styr's raiders. All of the raiders are killed, including Ygritte, who dies in a grief-stricken Jon's arms.

My impression is that the wiki does mention her fate...

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The Wiki states that the Smalljon is a foot taller than the Greatjon. This is obviously not correct, as the Greatjon is slightly the taller of the two, if I recall correctly. I believe the reference was that the Smalljon threatened to overtop his father, which would imply that he is almost as tall or of equal height to him.

If he was a foot taller, he'd be taller than Gregor Clegane.

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Hi everyone, I'm new here so excuse me if this isn't the right thread to report grammar and spelling mistakes, but I have noticed a good few in several of the chapter summaries..perhaps a post here will enable me to edit them myself, or else someone else with grammar nazi tendencies could dedicate a bit of time to this! :)

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I have a query about this page: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Prince_of_Dragonstone

It says the heir apparent is given the title Prince of Dragonstone but the list of known Princes lists people who were merely heirs presumptive rather than heir apparent.

For example Jaehaerys would not of been Prince of Dragonstone during Maegor I's reign because at any point Maegor could of had a child who would of displaced him as heir, an heir apparent is an heir who cannot be displaced by the birth of another person.

So looking at the list it should probably list the title as being vacant at the following points:

37-48 (Jaehaerys)

129-131 (Aegon)

131-143 (Viserys)

157-171 (Baelor/Viserys)

209-221 (Rhaegel)

Also Valarr should be listed at some point in 209, as his father Baelor died before him meaning he was heir apparent for a period of time.

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http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Guest_right



Guest Rights



"There are two infamous instances in the history of the Westeros when the guest right was broken:..."



There were three, to my memory. In addition to the two mentioned (red wedding, rat cook), the betrayal and slaughtering of Craster by the Nights Watchmen was also a breach of guest rights. Its interesting because this is the only instance of guest rights being broken by the guest, and not the host. I don't recall from the book, but I remember from the show Craster points out that he gave them bread, and one of the guys says "Yeah, but the bread has sawdust in it."



In the comments for the page:


In the text it says there were three infamous violations of the guest right but lists only two: The Rat Cook and the Red Wedding. What was the third?


probably a flux as I cant think of one at the moment.--Mor 07:19, 14 April 2012 (UTC)



It looks like someone was on to 3 originally but then edited it when they couldn't remember the third.




Edit: Another supporting tidbit. On the wiki for Mutiny at Craster's Keep, (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Mutiny_at_Craster%27s_Keep) it is said:


"The furious Lord Commander Mormont stands over Craster's corpse, saying that the gods will curse them for breaking guest right."

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I'm not sure where it came from, but on the page of House Martell (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Martell) it states that only after the defeat of Daemon Blackfyre, Maron and Daenerys got married.


It also says so on the page of Daenerys Targaryen (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daenerys_Targaryen_(daughter_of_Aegon_IV), on the major events timeline page (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Timeline#Targaryen_Dynasty) and on the years after Aegon's Landing page (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Years_after_Aegon%27s_Landing)



On all of these pages it is stated that Dorne formally joined the Seven Kingdoms and Prince Maron married Princess Daenerys in 197 AL. Yet, I haven't been able to find any source for this (books, interviews, SSM etc), and the wiki pages don't give a source either. Is this something randomly added by a fan, or have I missed some source somewhere?



Edit: this year would be extra strange, for it would make Daenerys about 26 or 27 years old (from descriptions we can conclude that she was born after Baelor Breakspear, who was born in 169, and before Aerys, who was born in 171). This would be very old to get married in Westeros times.


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On the family tree for House Arryn, Jeyne Royce is listed as Jon's daughter by his second wife. She should be his third wife (unless there's some Targaryen-style chicanery going on there...)



Also, I'm not sure about the layout of family trees -- should his three wives be listed in chronological order left-right, or do the two who didn't bear him any children come after the one who did?


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