Ajinkya Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Jon snow is 3rd dragon. Why?1.He is son of Lyanna stark and Rhaegar targaryen.2. Lyanna died in same year Jon was born.3. Before she died she made ned stark take some promise. What? To raise her son.4. Otherwise why 3 of the kingsguard were guarding tower of joy? They were protecting Jon.5. Jon has direwolf with "white" hair.6. Prophecy talks 3rd dragon beside Dany and Aegon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerWest Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 We shall see. Come the Winter, we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vany Targaryen Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 there are already 33 threads of R+L=J theory and all those numbers of yours are covered in those, so i don't see the reason of starting a new thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximilian Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 It's a pretty popular theory with lots of evidence supporting it.I choose to firmly stay in denial though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Huxley Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 What annoys me is that I've seen some people say that Lyanna and Rhaegar were married so the Kingsguard guarded her in the Tower of Joy. Which is bullshit. No one has had two wives, legally, since Aegon the conqueror and his two sisters, everyone else has had one wife. Jon, even if he is truly is the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar, is still a bastard and has no claim to the throne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 What annoys me is that I've seen some people say that Lyanna and Rhaegar were married so the Kingsguard guarded her in the Tower of Joy. Which is bullshit. No one has had two wives, legally, since Aegon the conqueror and his two sisters, everyone else has had one wife. Jon, even if he is truly is the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar, is still a bastard and has no claim to the throneNone of this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Huxley Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 None of this is true.How so? Is it not against the rules of the Seven to have more than one wife? Aegon the Conqueror only accepted the Seven when he finally managed to take over the Seven Kingdoms, not afterwards. So when he wed his two sisters, he was of another religion that probably accepted it. I don't see a Septon allowing him to take to wives, even if he is Prince Rhaegar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 How so? Is it not against the rules of the Seven to have more than one wife? Aegon the Conqueror only accepted the Seven when he finally managed to take over the Seven Kingdoms, not afterwards. So when he wed his two sisters, he was of another religion that probably accepted it. I don't see a Septon allowing him to take to wives, even if he is Prince Rhaegar.The Targs do what they want. As with the incest, which is also against the laws of the Seven, but the Septons still married them. As we have seen, the High Septon generally does the bidding of the crown (generally speaking.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nudu Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Rhaegar was very interested in prophecies and dragons. So he might be left the faith of seven. Maybe he has returned to an old Valirian religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Island Bruiser Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 How so? Is it not against the rules of the Seven to have more than one wife? Aegon the Conqueror only accepted the Seven when he finally managed to take over the Seven Kingdoms, not afterwards. So when he wed his two sisters, he was of another religion that probably accepted it. I don't see a Septon allowing him to take to wives, even if he is Prince Rhaegar.Fairly sure Aegon the Conqueror wasn't the last targ this side of the Narrow sea to take 2 wives but it certainly hadn't happened for quite some time. The whole polygamous marriage thing has struck me as a fair bit of wish fulfillment from Jon fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 How so? Is it not against the rules of the Seven to have more than one wife? Aegon the Conqueror only accepted the Seven when he finally managed to take over the Seven Kingdoms, not afterwards. So when he wed his two sisters, he was of another religion that probably accepted it. I don't see a Septon allowing him to take to wives, even if he is Prince Rhaegar.From Maegor the Cruel's wiki:Maegor notoriously kept multiple wives at a time and executed several of them for failing to produce an heir. Among his wives was Jeyne Westerling.[4] [my emphasis] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of the Smiling Knight Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Sounds like Maegor had a little Henry the VIII in him, but DAMN, haven't heard this idea before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Huxley Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I still don't think they were married before Lyanna had Jon (if that is even true) and who would know, the Septon might be dead who married them, the Kingsguard are all dead. Who is there now to say that they did marry? I think its absurd to think that Jon is the trueborn heir, providing that Aegon is not real, and Ned has never told him, even when he went to the wall and forswore all claims he had to anything. Jon is a bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Crow Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Rather more importantly he's a Stark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponzo Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I hate if someone acts like its a fact that he is targaryendidnt someone mention that arya acts alot like lyanna?"She is said to take after her fiery aunt Lyanna in temperament"Could you see Arya running away with a harp playing princeling who hears voices, has visions and believes in prophecies?shed rather poke that freak with her needle if he trys to fulfill the prophecy by kidnapping and banging her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Could you see Arya running away with a harp playing princeling who hears voices, has visions and believes in prophecies?You mean the harp playing princeling whose music she cried to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I still don't think they were married before Lyanna had Jon (if that is even true) and who would know, the Septon might be dead who married them, the Kingsguard are all dead. Who is there now to say that they did marry? I think its absurd to think that Jon is the trueborn heir, providing that Aegon is not real, and Ned has never told him, even when he went to the wall and forswore all claims he had to anything. Jon is a bastardWho says a septon married them? Rhaegar's 'abduction' of Lyanna suggests a possible First Men ritual where men would 'steal' their wives. It's possible R&L said their vows to the Old Gods, in front of a weirwood. With all due respect, this is your second failed attempt to rule out marriage between R&L. Maybe there is a good reason for that. :)You're entitled to think anything absurd that you wish. However, you might be interested to know that the theories in favor of Jon's legitimacy have apparently been given a great deal more consideration than your objections to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Huxley Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I just can't see it, it's just too fairytale for my liking, personally I'd be disappointed to see if that was the case. However, I'm inclined to think that then Bran could then reveal Jon's parentage to Jon because he'll be able to see it through the weirwoods, and Mormont's raven does shout king at Jon three times when Mormont and Jon are talking, which could mean that Bloodraven has seen it in the weirwoods already and is talking through the raven, it does also link in with the whole ice and fire thing......... But anyway Jon's dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyrionsFlagon Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Who says a septon married them? Rhaegar's 'abduction' of Lyanna suggests a possible First Men ritual where men would 'steal' their wives. It's possible R&L said their vows to the Old Gods, in front of a weirwood.You're trying soo hard for it to be true and it hurts. This is such a stretch; to randomly start doing another culture's traditions just so you can bang some chick. Really? If this is true, Rhaegar was an idiot and we should refer to him as Florian.R+L=J is a pretty certain thing, but making him legitimate this way is a stretch. Was polygamy also a ritual of the First Men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Huxley Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Rhaegar was also a bit of a knob to just protect Lyanna and Jon with three Kingsguard members, arguably the best ones and leave Elia and her two children with just Jaime, who Aerys wouldn't let out of his site. Surely you'd send them away as well, to Dorne perhaps, where they could have been safe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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