TheCrannogDweller Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 This came up in another thread, and I thought it would be interesting to see what people thought. As it stands, Roose and Ramsay Bolton are close to meeting their doom. If that happens, and the Starks reclaim Winterfell, who do you think will get the Dreadfort and its lands? Keep in mind that Fat Walda Frey is pregnant with Roose's child. Would the Bolton heir from Walda be allowed to keep his lands (if he's male)? If the baby is female will she be allowed to keep the Bolton lands? Will the baby even be born (Roose at some point says that Ramsay will probably kill the child)? If the Boltons do die out, which House would most likely get their lands? So, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenlyIsNotRight Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If Bran and Rickon both make it back, perhaps Rickon as the new Lord of the Dreadfort? It'd be fitting for him.If not...perhaps it'll be passed to some other Northern heir - Robett Glover maybe or one of those Tallhart kids - assuming of course they don't die. As long as House Bolton is extinct by the end of the series I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Firstly, the issue is when, not if.The Boltons will get killed off. Root and stem, this time.As for what happens to their lands?Tormund of House Giantsbane happens, I reckon. Or even more appropriately, if he survives, Mance of House Rayder. Given his interaction with the storyline of the Boltons in Dance, I think that will be a very real possibility. Plus he was a King before, so getting the lands of one of the most powerful Houses in the North would be quite appropriate, as he would actually know what to do with it, unlike Tormund who would just piss his wealth away on booze and women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Someone else will take it, turning it into the Happyfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Wylla Manderly Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 As long as House Bolton is extinct by the end of the series I'll be happy. :agree:I'm sort of worried though. Because there's a baby coming and all. People have speculated that the reason why Bolton's still exist despite rebelling against the Stark's THRICE before, was because the heir was a baby or a child and the Stark's spared him. Sounds like something Ned and Robb would do. And we all know how well it turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian Spoon Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 The Manderlys have a claim on the Hornwood lands that Ramsay annexed when he married Lady Hornwood. Iirc Lord Manderly was Lady Hornwoods cousin there is also a bastard somewhere, Ser Rodrik commented that allowing the bastard to inherit would have been what the late Lord Hornwood wanted but not politically savvy. However given that he was only mentioned once and the general chaos in the North post Iron Born invasion/ Red Wedding it's not even a given he's alive.As for the Dreadfort I personally want the place torn down stone by stone and whoever get's the land to build a new castle (or at least throw out all the 'special cloaks' that the Boltons have hidden) :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armidil0 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Someone else will take it, turning it into the Happyfort.I like this. The Happyfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrannogDweller Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 I'm sort of worried though. Because there's a baby coming and all. People have speculated that the reason why Bolton's still exist despite rebelling against the Stark's THRICE before, was because the heir was a baby or a child and the Stark's spared him. Sounds like something Ned and Robb would do. And we all know how well it turned out. Maybe it's not something Rickon would do... Or maybe this time the child either won't be born or die right after that. Also, don't forget that the mother of that particular child also has blood on her hands - she was present at the Red Wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Wylla Manderly Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Maybe it's not something Rickon would do... Or maybe this time the child either won't be born or die right after that. Don't forget that the mother of that particular child also has blood on her hands - she was present at the Red Wedding.Yeah, I don't see Rickon or Arya in particular, being so forgiving and "just" about this xDDamnit, where is Mirri Maz Duur when you need her?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Ranger Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hodor.Hodor will be the lord of the Dreadfort. He will rename it the Hodorfort. So he will actually be the Lord of the Hodorfort. And Hodorfort will be one of the Norths Strongest bases. Hodor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian Spoon Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If as others have speculated that Roose will die somehow before the Battle of Winterfell then Fat Walda will be left alone with Ramsay. I don't think she will live long enough to worry about the Stark kids then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Heart Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 As for the Dreadfort I personally want the place torn down stone by stone and whoever get's the land to build a new castle (or at least throw out all the 'special cloaks' that the Boltons have hidden) :ack:I want it bathed in dragonfire until there's nothing left. :agree:I'm sort of worried though. Because there's a baby coming and all. People have speculated that the reason why Bolton's still exist despite rebelling against the Stark's THRICE before, was because the heir was a baby or a child and the Stark's spared him. Sounds like something Ned and Robb would do. And we all know how well it turned out.I don't want the baby hurt. But I'm afraid Ramsey will kill it.And I don't think Arya, Bran or Jon will be forgiving at all when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughie Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I like the idea it becomes Mance's castle, but if Mance survives the books, I think he'll wander off and live the life of a travelling troubadour.Hodor has a higher destiny than Lord of the Dreadfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximilian Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Roose trueborn son gets it, but It will be renamed into the Funfort and his new sigil will be a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_wolf Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 sansa will install house poole of the dreadfort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valyrian Spoon Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 As for the actual Bolton lands I think they are quite vast and seem to be able to raise a considerable number of men. I don't know wether it would make more sence to parcel them out to various proven Lords and retainers or create a Stark cadet branch rather than hand one Lord all the power.Or alternatively that land could be used to settle the wildlings that have come through The Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lord's Kiss Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I think the Florents will get it since they lost all that rich land in the south.. They'll need a good decorator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderstark Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I think that House Ryswell could be the heir of House Bolton if Roose and Ramsay (and Walda's boy) will die. It is said that Roose was named after Roose Ryswell, o cousin of Lord Rodrik. So we understand why Roose Bolton is very careful with Lady Dustin and the Ryswells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Flandrensis Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If Bran and Rickon both make it back, perhaps Rickon as the new Lord of the Dreadfort? It'd be fitting for him.If not...perhaps it'll be passed to some other Northern heir - Robett Glover maybe or one of those Tallhart kids - assuming of course they don't die.As long as House Bolton is extinct by the end of the series I'll be happy.I'll second all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fallen Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 ` I don't think Mance is trustworthy enough to receive it. It should go to a staunch Stark loyalist. Maybe Jon should get it. As far as Walda goes, she went all in with her family. She knew about the Red Wedding so she should not hope for any mercy. Of course, it's all dependent on the truth getting out. The North knows something fishy went on where the Boltons are concerned. Should the actual details, especially Roose's greeting, get out, well, "it could get ugly!"Edited for errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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