Feralwolfchild Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Do you feel sorry for any of the villains? They don't have to be horribly evil, just villains in their eyes, other peoples', etc. I feel sorry for Theon. He might have done some bad things, especially with the miller's children, but he only wanted SOMEONE to accept him. His crew hated him, his father saw him as some southron softling, even the people of Winterfell didn't care for him much. And what Ramsey did to him? No one deserves that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Viserys; tragic upbringing to say the least. Aerys to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I pity Cersei. I really do. Because she felt that her course of action was necessary and it really wasnt. Plus she has a lack of empathy and thats pretty pitiable.Theon isnt really a "bad guy" in the same way im thinking, but i do have a bit of pity for him in ADWD.Viserys; tragic upbringing to say the least. Hoo yeah. Viserys gets a lot of pity from me. Thanks a pant load, Harry Lloyd. (its his fault, you know...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Yep Viserys, forced to run all his life.I do pity Theon, but I still think he deserves to die but that's basically a mercy at this point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im With Stannis Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I'd say Stannis, but his lines are so blurred that you really can't categorize him as either. With that said, Theon's life sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feralwolfchild Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Oh yeah, Viserys is a very pitiable figure. Though I don't think he was very "bad". Crazy, yes, but not a villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucamore the Lusty Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Jamie, he let his sister lead him by the nose all his life and it cost him his inheritance. It also put him in the horrid position of having to be an oathbreaker or to kill his own father and let a city burn. The only truly evil thing he ever did was push Bran from the window and that was 100% Cersei related. His life journey started with the highest ideals and now everyone thinks he has s*** for honor.I could have said Theon as well. Family vs friends, Ramsey, ect; but I knew that one would be well covered by others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordouche Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Ser Gregor is the only 'villain' I find nothing to sympathise with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Oh yeah, Viserys is a very pitiable figure. Though I don't think he was very "bad". Crazy, yes, but not a villain.He had the potential to be quite the villain, actually. Martin chose not to go that route, however, by limiting Viserys' intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NitzanLeo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I have to feel sorry for Theon. I don't think he deserved what came for him, since we know now that he knows that he didn't kill Bran and Rickon. He was the one who fooled Ramsay and the rest, who would've killed them for their own, separate albeit similar goals. Then he gets tortured, flayed and broken. He was frustrated at his position in the Stark family, and when he went to Pyke to have his father join hands with Robb, he gets pulled into trying to show his father he is a true Ironborn, and ends up betraying his only friend. He made some mistakes, sure, but it wasn't all his fault, granted. I also pity Sandor, though no one really saw him as a bad guy after the whole Sandor-Arya combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Judah Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I'd say Stannis, but his lines are so blurred that you really can't categorize him as either. With that said, Theon's life sucks.Do how dangerous it is to imply that Stannis is a bad guy around these forums? And you are a Stannis fan, what's up with that? That being said I agree with you. :drunk: If worse comes to worse we both make a run for it when the Stannis fanatics show up. :leaving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Baratheon Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Theon was never a villain. He was misguided and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 -Viserys-Aerys-Cersei, Cersei most of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Do how dangerous it is to imply that Stannis is a bad guy around these forums? And you are a Stannis fan, what's up with that? That being said I agree with you. :drunk: If worse comes to worse we both make a run for it when the Stannis fanatics show up. :leaving: :excl: :tantrum: :excl:*This is your first and only warning.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turinturambar1 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Sandor Clegane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarl the climber Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Tywin, he did all this scheming, killing and plotting to make a better world for his children and they totally shit on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 How is stannis a villain? He is fighting freys, and boltons. Saved the north from wildlings and saved deepwood mott from ironborn. What has he ever done to be classified as a villain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer is Ending Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I have to feel sorry for Theon. I don't think he deserved what came for him, since we know now that he knows that he didn't kill Bran and Rickon. He was the one who fooled Ramsay and the rest, who would've killed them for their own, separate albeit similar goals. Then he gets tortured, flayed and broken. He was frustrated at his position in the Stark family, and when he went to Pyke to have his father join hands with Robb, he gets pulled into trying to show his father he is a true Ironborn, and ends up betraying his only friend. He made some mistakes, sure, but it wasn't all his fault, granted. I also pity Sandor, though no one really saw him as a bad guy after the whole Sandor-Arya combo.You know it was Ramsay that came up with the plan of the miller's boys right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I cant get over this "stannis is a villain" thing. Seriously guys/gals? He is fighting the main villains of the series the worst houses in westeros(freys,lannisters,boltons) and the others. He has done nothing that would classify him as a villain. You dont have to like him but please, dont be silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Judah Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 :excl: :tantrum: :excl:*This is your first and only warning.*I'm so busted, I wrote that knowing at any moment you and E-Ro would be showing up LOL. In my defense I was just agreeing with the poster though.Stannis= :thumbsdown:I'm out!!!!! :leaving: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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