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References and Homages

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Plus Harry the Heir suddenly shows up in the books, an obvious reference to one of our moderators. Three cheers for Harry the Heir!

[And no chicken or the egg debates, please. Harry is obviously the chicken AND the egg.]

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Nobody has mentioned the most obvious one: the "R. R." in Martin's name is an obvious reference to Tolkien.

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[*] Lord Titus Peake: A reference to Mervyn Peake and his seminal work of fantasy,

the Gormenghast trilogy, starting with Titus Groan.

I aslo wonder if "Ghaston Grey" is based on Gormemghast - both are dreary old places, although the former must be relatively small since it is in the middle of the Sea of Dorne, and the latter is vast.

Aratan

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couple potentially nifty ones here:

SPOILER: the one
compare-- "The Cinnamon Wind was a swan ship out of Tall Trees Town on the Summer Isles, where men were black, women were wanton, and even the gods were strange" (penultimate Samwell chapter)

with-- "I have crossed many mountains and many rivers, and trodden many plains, even into the far countries of Rhun and Harad where the stars are strange" (aragorn in LotR)

curious. swan ships from the teleri, too? at least tolkien's casual racism doesn't seem to exist in martin, though strange things tend to be afoot when we're talking about some black folks in all these books.

SPOILER: the other
brienne's early companion shadrich, the mad mouse, is roughly the same type of unsavory hireling evident in mieville's shadrach of PSS, though the physical descriptions differ, and it would be more apt to associate that character with moths than with mouses. heh. perhaps tolkien's shadrach, of the tower of cirirth ungol is better? I know not. or is it more likely that all three draw on the similarly named character from the book of daniel? no idea. will have to wait until the martin character develops further, especially vis-a-vis furnaces.

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Do Hedge Knight references count?

SPOILER: AFFC
Brienne asks the shield-painter to replicate the design of Dunk's shield. "...the sight of it took her back through the long years, to the cool dark of her father's armory. She remembered how she'd run her fingertips across the cracked and fading paint, over the green leaves of the tree, and along the path of the falling star." p140, US edition.

Maester Aemon also drops a few references to Dunk and Egg here and there, but I don't have the page numbers for those.

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Three more possible nods:

In AGoT, in the chapter in which Tyrion choses trial by combat in the Eirye, Tyrion thinks of Jaime that

His brother never untied a knot when he could slash it in two with his sword.

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Three more possible nods:

In AGoT, in the chapter in which Tyrion choses trial by combat in the Eirye, Tyrion thinks of Jaime that which I think is a reference to Alexander the Great and the Gordian knot.

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Hmm.. I'm looking for the "You're a sweet fool, Sam." and all I can find is Frodo saying "You're a fool, Frodo Baggins." in book One Chapter 8. I don't see him calling Sam a fool anywhere, though.

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Jon says "You're a sweet fool, Sam" to Samwell. The exact same words are used by Frodo to Sam. (This would benefit from page references...)

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I think the passage describing how Tywin ruled the realm, but Joanna ruled Tywin owes something to I, Claudius by Robert Graves:

"Augustus ruled the world, but Livia [Augustus' wife] ruled Augustus."

(Claudius himself seems to be a big influence in terms of the creation of Tyrion).

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Dany sees a ship at Qarth called Magister Manolo which looks "barely seaworthy". Manolin is the name of Hemingway's protagonist in The Old Man and the Sea.

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Dany sees a ship at Qarth called Magister Manolo which looks "barely seaworthy". Manolin is the name of Hemingway's protagonist in The Old Man and the Sea.

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Ah, yes. Forgive me, it's been some time since last I read it. (I understand your pedantism; I'm the same way sometimes.)

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Another one:

In ASoS, when Bran is in the Nightfort, Hodor throws a slate to the well and Bran says:

"You shouldn't have done that. You don't know what's down

there. You might have hurt something, or ... or woken something up."

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SPOILER: AFfC
The lord of the House is Lord Trebor, whose name when reversed reveals "Robert".

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In Asha's chapter, the Kraken's daugther, there are two scythes hanging over the seat of the Lord of Harlaw in Ten Towers, which I think can be a nod to Damocle's sword

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I was browsing the used record store earlier and came across a band called Marillion--at first I was excited because they might have been a ref. to GRRM, but some of their records were copyrighted 1988. Anyone heard this band, or know if GRRM might be referencing them in the name of his singer? (I was too cheap to buy any.)

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Charles Martel was the grandfather of Charlemagne, reunited the Franks and added Aquitaine & Burgundy to his realm. He also won the Battle of Tours (732), which halted the Muslims/Moors from advancing from Spain into Frankish territory.

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