Full-Faced Braavosi Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Got this idea from Jon Snow's small council thread, but if you could compose the best Small Council possible, who would it be.I leave it up to you to decide how you feel about the following issues, but personally this is meant to be without regard to who the king is or house relations (i.e. ignore the fact that the Starks hate the Lannisters). Simply, who would be the best at each position.You might, however, consider whether the whole of the council will be greater or smaller than its constituent parts (i.e. might a person be great for a job, but be a detriment to the council due to his personality or something).Feel free to add positions that you think are currently lacking on the council (e.g. Master of Foreign (Essos) Relations) or non council positions like the Wardens or KG members.Also, if you have a couple people in mind for each position, please list them all (with ranks!?).Positions:-King: (If you'd like to choose a King)-Hand of the King:-Lord Commander of the Kingsguard:-Master of Coin:-Master of Laws:-Master of Whisperers:-Master of Ships:-Grand Maester:Optional Additions:-Court Clown:-Master of Works(Projects Overseer):-Commander of the City Watch (Gold Cloaks):-Court Assassin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Hard-Ruler Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Positions:-Hand of the King: Davos, loyal almost to a fault but would still be guided by his own morals in the end, would be able to see things from the view of the Smallfolk-Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Brienne Tarth, one of the few true knights in the series-Master of Coin: Tyrion Lannister, I wouldn't want to give Tyrion a position with too much power, but he is very intelligent, pragmatic and is less likely to be corrupted by the position since he is already a very wealthy man.-Master of Laws: Jon Snow, has a strong sense of justice taught to him by Ned but also is capable of compassion and mercy.-Master of Whisperers: Doran Martell, prudent and calculating-Master of Ships: Asha Greyjoy, the Ironborn sure know sailing and Asha is the most reasonable and respectable of the lot-Grand Maester:Pylos, young but has a good heart. All my fave maesters (Aemon, Cressen, Leuwin) have already died :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyKraken Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 -Hand of the King: Tywin Lannister-Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Aemon the Dragon Knight-Master of Coin: Leyton Hightower-Master of Laws: Jon Arryn-Master of Whisperers: Varys-Master of Ships: Rodrik Harlaw-Grand Maester: Maester Aemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoned Dragon Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hand of the King: Tyrion Lannister, he's got experience and a title that's respected. LC of the KG: The Greatjon, incredibly loyal and strong Master of Coin: I'd probably hire the Braavosi Banker (Tycho?) Master of Laws: Davos, honorable and believes in the laws even when they hurt himMaster of Whisperers: Bloodraven/Three Eyed Crow, obvious reasonsMaster of Ships: Vic Greyjoy, the man is dumb as a bag of hair but obeys orders w/o question and is fierce warriorGrand Maester: Don't care - let the Citadel send who they wantThe only problem with this list is that I'm essentially letting a dwarf run the kingdom alongside a foreign banker, an onion knight/smuggler, a sorcerer, and a reaver/raper/murderer. The small-folk are probably not going to like my rule, but we almost assuredly would get shit done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucamore the Lusty Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Positions:-Hand of the King: Tywin Lannister-Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Barristan Selmy-Master of Coin: Tyrion Lannister-Master of Laws: Eddard Stark-Master of Whisperers: Varys-Master of Ships: Davos Seaworth-Grand Maester: Marwyn the Mage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Valonqar Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 SpoilersPositions:-Hand of the King: Doran Martell. Wise and not to aggressive-Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Barristan Selmy or Brienne. Both are knights of honour. I dont trust Jaimie yet.-Master of Coin: Lord Petyr Baelish. Even though this is a very conventional choice I think he has shown great skill in being Master Of Coin. Tywin would be a candidate if it werent for bad parenting.-Master of Laws: Stannis Baratheon. "But he is supposed to be king and you are mean and i love Stannis etc".-Fanboys/girls. I picked Stannis for I can choose from whomever and Stannis truly cares about justice.-Master of Whisperers: Varys. Nuff said.-Master of Ships: Victarion Greyjoy. If you could(and that is a big if) get Victarion to be loyal to your cause he would be the best Shipmaster. But the Shipmaster has to be Ironborn I think, anything else makes little sense.-Grand Maester: Oh how I wish that Maester Luwin was alive. But Maester Pylos is the best I know of that is aliveHowever the small council should be different for each king. I would not choose Victarion for Maester of ships for rash kings like Robert or Joffrey but they would be good for calm men like Stannis or Doran Martell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyKraken Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 SpoilersPositions:-Hand of the King: Doran Martell. Wise and not to aggressive-Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Barristan Selmy or Brienne. Both are knights of honour. I dont trust Jaimie yet.-Master of Coin: Lord Petyr Baelish. Even though this is a very conventional choice I think he has shown great skill in being Master Of Coin. Tywin would be a candidate if it werent for bad parenting.-Master of Laws: Stannis Baratheon. "But he is supposed to be king and you are mean and i love Stannis etc".-Fanboys/girls. I picked Stannis for I can choose from whomever and Stannis truly cares about justice.-Master of Whisperers: Varys. Nuff said.-Master of Ships: Victarion Greyjoy. If you could(and that is a big if) get Victarion to be loyal to your cause he would be the best Shipmaster. But the Shipmaster has to be Ironborn I think, anything else makes little sense.-Grand Maester: Oh how I wish that Maester Luwin was alive. But Maester Pylos is the best I know of that is aliveHowever the small council should be different for each king. I would not choose Victarion for Maester of ships for rash kings like Robert or Joffrey but they would be good for calm men like Stannis or Doran Martell. I disagree with LF as a choice, we haven't seen any true loyalty from LF to any known house, people may argue Varys wouldn't be a wise choice but we know he can be loyal to a house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLover Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hand of the King: Davos Seaworth Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Brienne of TarthMaster of Coin: Tyrion LannisterMaster of Laws: Samwell TarlyMaster of Whisperers: VarysMaster of Ships: Asha GreyjoyGrand Maester: Maester Aemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Positions:-Hand of the King: a mix between Stannis, Tywin, Tyrion and Mance-Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Arthur Dayne, Brienne-Master of Coin: Littlefinger-Master of Laws: Stanis (if he is not the king, and it's a big if,)-Master of Whisperers: Bloodraven-Master of Ships: Davos Seaworth-Grand Maester: Maester Cressen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hand of the King: Davos.Lord Commander of the Kingsguard: Barristan Selmy.Master of Coin: That Braavosi Banker.Master of Laws: Jon.Master of Whisperers: Tyene Sand.Master of Ships: Asha GreyjoyGrand Maester: Maester Aemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Faced Braavosi Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 snipLooks like you prize loyalty.The only problem with this list is that I'm essentially letting a dwarf run the kingdom alongside a foreign banker, an onion knight/smuggler, a sorcerer, and a reaver/raper/murderer. The small-folk are probably not going to like my rule, but we almost assuredly would get shit done.Haha - shit would definitely get done, be it good or otherwise. This is indeed why I added the caveat that the best for each position individually might not be good as a whole or in the long run.However the small council should be different for each king. I would not choose Victarion for Maester of ships for rash kings like Robert or Joffrey but they would be good for calm men like Stannis or Doran Martell.Quite true - I've added "King" to the list of positions for those who want to choose and construct a council based on that.I disagree with LF as a choice, we haven't seen any true loyalty from LF to any known house, people may argue Varys wouldn't be a wise choice but we know he can be loyal to a house.I agree that LF might not be the best choice, but to top off his lack of loyalty, I also think he might not have been as good of a Master of Coins as we think. It seems like he just borrowed horrible amounts of money to fund the present time needs while sacrificing the future to debt (sound familiar?) when he knew he wouldn't be around to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Hand- Stannis if he is not king. If he is then DavosMaster of Laws- Ned StarkMaster of Coin- Petyr BaelsihMaster of Ships- Wyman ManderlyLC of KG- Post-amputation Jaime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden&Crimson Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Mine Small Council would be:Hand of the King: Tywin Lannister - competent and pragmatic.Lady Commander of the Kingsguard: Brienne of Tarth - skilled and loyal.Master of Coin: Petyr Baelish - competent and resourceful.Master of Laws: Eddard Stark - just and serious.Master of Whisperers: Varys - resorceful and inteligent.Master of Ships: Stannis Baratheon - hardworking and competent.Grand Maester: Luwin - inteligent and competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Valonqar Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I agree that LF might not be the best choice, but to top off his lack of loyalty, I also think he might not have been as good of a Master of Coins as we think. It seems like he just borrowed horrible amounts of money to fund the present time needs while sacrificing the future to debt (sound familiar?) when he knew he wouldn't be around to deal with it.Sounds to familiar but that is not my perception of what Littlefinger did. This quote is taken from http://asoiaf.wester...-petyr-baelish/Petyr did not simply collect the gold and lock it in a treasure vault. He paid the king's debts in promises, and put the king's gold to work. He bought wagons, shops, ships, and houses. He bought grain when it was plentiful and sold bread when it was scarce. He bought wool from the north and linen from the south and lace from Lys, stored it, moved it, dyed it, and sold it. He would take the profits and leand them out, bringing home more money from the interest on the loans.I do not have a book quote but I am pretty sure this was somewhere in the books.But it is true that Littlefinger is only loyal to Littlefinger. But if I had Varys on my Small council his primary job would be to keep an eye on Littlefinger.Edit: I do however see why one would not have LF in his Small council. That's why Tywin would have been my first choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Baratheon Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 King: Stannis BaratheonHand: Ser Davos SeaworthMaster of Laws: Doran MartelMaster of Coin: Tyrion LannisterMaster of Ships: Wyman ManderlyLC of KG: Ser Barristan SelmyOptional: Court clown: Danaerys Targaryen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Faced Braavosi Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 Sounds to familiar but that is not my perception of what Littlefinger did. This quote is taken from http://asoiaf.wester...-petyr-baelish/I do now have a book quote but I am pretty sure this was somewhere in the books.But it is true that Littlefinger is only loyal to Littlefinger. But if I had Varys on my Small council his primary job would be to keep an eye on Littlefinger.Edit: I do however see why one would not have LF in his Small council. That's why Tywin would have been my first choiceFair enough - a true modern financier then.I make him teach somebody else and then toss him in the deepest dungeon (the ocean) before he bribes his way into power.Optional: Court clown: Danaerys TargaryenHaha, I truly laughed at that one. Love the idea, adding it to the list (though as a Dany fan, I have to deny the choice. A3dmittedly she's gotten annoying and foolish.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 King: Stannis BaratheonHand: Ser Davos SeaworthMaster of Laws: Doran MartelMaster of Coin: Tyrion LannisterMaster of Ships: Wyman ManderlyLC of KG: Ser Barristan SelmyOptional: Court clown: Danaerys TargaryenNo, keep on old Patches ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 King: Stannis BaratheonHand: Ser Davos SeaworthMaster of Laws: Doran MartelMaster of Coin: Tyrion LannisterMaster of Ships: Wyman ManderlyLC of KG: Ser Barristan SelmyOptional: Court clown: Danaerys Targaryen Yes this! Great choices...PS: UnCat can be the Clown too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolex Baratheon Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yes this! Great choices...PS: UnCat can be the Clown too...Uncat is vicious, hateful, cruel, and undead. Not clown material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Faced Braavosi Posted January 22, 2013 Author Share Posted January 22, 2013 No, keep on old Patches ;)Clearly that man needs to be taken more seriously. He becomes First Master of Visions.Yes this! Great choices...PS: UnCat can be the Clown too...Woah, not sure if there's a worse choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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