TheCrannogDweller Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I have a question about the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch. They get elected by the brothers of NW and serve till death.But is there an option where they can be legally removed or impeached by the rest of the NW? Or is death the only way they leave their post?Bloodraven was Lord Commander and he left, so I'm guessing there is a way - whether it is a legal procedure remains to be seen. I think we'll learn more about this with the unfolding of Bloodraven's and Jon's storylines in the next book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeli Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 but we've also seen common born bastards carry the bastard last nameWho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Who?Bastard Walder's son, Aemon Rivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travex Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Was it ever adequately explained why Stannis retreated to Dragonstone after Jon Arryn's death? Seems like a total douche move / out of character to abandon Robert to the lions (pun intended) after finding out about the incest issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dornishman's Wife Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Was it ever adequately explained why Stannis retreated to Dragonstone after Jon Arryn's death? Seems like a total douche move / out of character to abandon Robert to the lions (pun intended) after finding out about the incest issue.I think he just didn't have enough proof to accuse, but had reason enough to believe that Jon Arryn was murdered for his knowledge and he'd be next unless he retreats to a place of safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revae Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Was it ever adequately explained why Stannis retreated to Dragonstone after Jon Arryn's death? Seems like a total douche move / out of character to abandon Robert to the lions (pun intended) after finding out about the incest issue.Pretty much as mentioned above. After Jon Arryn was murdered, Stannis left to Dragonstone because Robert named Ned the Hand instead - another insult - and because he knew that his own life would be in danger for trying to uncover the same thing Jon Arryn was (they were uncovering it together). Ned actually wonders in AGOT why Stannis left too, thinking it was because he might've killed Jon Arryn. But as we find out, and know now, Stannis and Jon Arryn were working together on uncovering the incest thing about Cersei and once poisoned, Stannis needed to gather his forces back on Dragonstone.As for it being a douche move to abandon Robert, Stannis knew Robert would never believe him about Cersei because that would mean Stannis is the next in line for the throne, ie, it would seem like a power-play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Tormund Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 News travels fast by raven, and Arya being found would have made news.Uhhh.... That's not what I'm asking exactly. I'm asking how did Jon know that Lady was dead and Nymeria lost. This is right after he finds out that Ned's been accused of treason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 At the election for the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, Mormont's raven flew out of the kettle and landed on Jon's shoulder. Sam did not put the raven in the kettle and admitted he almost wet himself when the bird flew out. Who put the raven in the kettle? Also, the raven in the kettle appears to have been a known and accepted tradition as evidenced by people calling for it and no one objecting to the ceremony. Are there other mentions of a raven in a kettle? Is there some sort of symbolism or story outside of the ASOIAF universe that tells of the significance of a raven in a kettle.I've done a search, but my searching skills are failing me. Lots of excellent threads about Mormont's raven and it's possible connection with Bloodraven, but can't seem to find the answer to the two specific questions above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wighty Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Are you talking about when they were saying that it wasnt Mormonts raven cause it can say more than "Snow" and that all the ravens are saying it cause sam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 There was a thread a while back talking about the changes that the Targaryens made (or didn't make) to Westeros, does anyone happen to know where that is? Searched around and I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bresteil of the North Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Is this really the 1004th version of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Why do you keep on repeating the same question, especially when you've gotten your answer on page 1? Recount your zeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bresteil of the North Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Why do you keep on repeating the same question, especially when you've gotten your answer on page 1? Recount your zeros.Sorry I completely missed the answer and the third zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Gwynhyfvar Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Sorry I completely missed the answer and the third zero.If you want a real answer- this is the fifth iteration of this thread since Angalin started numbering them (starting with 10000) Before that there were umpteen other unnumbered versions :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bresteil of the North Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 If you want a real answer- this is the fifth iteration of this thread since Angalin started numbering them (starting with 10000) Before that there were umpteen other unnumbered versions :)Thanks, I was thinking that was a massive amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travex Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Uhhh.... That's not what I'm asking exactly. I'm asking how did Jon know that Lady was dead and Nymeria lost. This is right after he finds out that Ned's been accused of treason. Seems like a slip-up to me... You can explain it away with warging but more likely it was a slip-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Doll Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I get the significance of Ghost being white with red eyes, but I wonder, whats the significance of him being silent? its not even so unusual, albinism presents as a lack of pigment, causing white fur and blood to show through irises.It seems very odd for animal to be silent, and certainly not related to albinism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Tormund Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Seems like a slip-up to me... You can explain it away with warging but more likely it was a slip-up.Thanks, thats what I was thinking it could be. I didn't even catch it until my third time reading it and I was actively searching for hints of warging early on this time throughETA: Why did Tywin name his heir Jamie? The "Ty" sound seems to be a family thing, Tyrion thinks that in ADwD chapter I believe after hearing someone with a "Ty" in their name. So why did he name is heir an un-Lannister name and his deformed son who he hates for "killing" his beloved wife a Lannister name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisunderstoodFrey Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 After Renly's death, did the men from the Reach go back with the Tyrells, or did any stay? Sorry, my memory of it's foggy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbon Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Uhhh.... That's not what I'm asking exactly. I'm asking how did Jon know that Lady was dead and Nymeria lost. This is right after he finds out that Ned's been accused of treason.Its easily explained by Raven messages we don't see.Ladies death and Nymeria's loss happened months before Ned was accused of treason, on the way south to KL.There is no reason why Jon, who has not yet taken vows, would be cut off from all news of his family, or evidence that he was.Stuff happens 'offscreen' too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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