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Yagathai

"They're All So Beautiful", a documentary on race and dating

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I have found myself on a number of occasions being really attracted to Asian women. I think the reason for this is because I am attracted to women. I am also really attracted to European women, American women, African women, Indian women, Persian women, Russian women, South American women, Middle Eastern women...ect...ect... ad infinitum.

As for personal features that I like, They have to be either short, tall, or in between. They have to have blonde, black, brunette, red, or funky color died hair (or be bald) and finally the only body type I am attracted to is living (if they are dead, that is a real turn off).

There is always one consistent with the women I have dated though. It is absolutely essential that they like me as well. I just can't stand going out with someone who hates me.

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I just can't stand going out with someone who hates me.

But, but, what about the hate sex?

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Just curious, what are the stereotypes of asian men people alude to?

The one thing I can think of is working long hours and spending the evenings at the bar, which seems A) Hardly a uniquely asian stereotype and B) hardly something to be attracted too

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But, but, what about the hate sex?

Ninjas...wait, is that racist? :dunno:

Edit:Realised how this could be miscontrued as a joke about hysterical PC police so nvm.

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But, but, what about the hate sex?

That's true...

Damn you EP !!! Now I can't even be discriminatory on the basis of hate !!!

To be perfectly honest, there is one thing that I can't do in a dating situation. I personally can't date anyone unless they are intelligent and artistic in some way. There is just not enough time in this world to spend with boring and stupid people.

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That's true...

Damn you EP !!! Now I can't even be discriminatory on the basis of hate !!!

To be perfectly honest, there is one thing that I can't do in a dating situation. I personally can't date anyone unless they are intelligent and artistic in some way. There is just not enough time in this world to spend with boring and stupid people.

How dare you make a judgment call against stupid people.

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It all begins with the unsettling staring-at or fixation on you by someone. The facial hair only adds to it. Facial hair on its own doesn't a fetishist make.

I understand the whole creeper factor, but when you're discussing the staring at/fixation thing...isn't that something that anyone who is considered very attractive physically has to deal with? Good looking people tend to get stared at, and I'm not sure why being stared at by someone who finds you particularly attractive because they like an "Asian look" is somehow worse than someone who stares at you because you have great boobs. Or why liking "an Asian look" is somehow more worthy of condemnation than being attracted to women with great legs.

That being said, I can see how stereotypes about behaviors, whether perceived submissiveness or whatever, would piss someone off.

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Just curious, what are the stereotypes of asian men people alude to?

The one thing I can think of is working long hours and spending the evenings at the bar, which seems A) Hardly a uniquely asian stereotype and B) hardly something to be attracted too

Wait...what?! You mean to tell me my Dad is Asian?! He'll certainly be surprised! He's always thought he's Irish :P

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Meanwhile, the board ads display pretty Asian ladies.

I'm always stunned and amazed that that one comes up so often on this board.

I am so fake moral outraged about the men who feel free to make Asian-related comments about my body or my preferences. All the times I've walked by some white men and they say "me so horny" as I pass.

And I consider myself to be someone fortunate enough to have been relatively unaffected by racism in my life. (And I'm distinguishing these events from what one might call negatively focused racism).

Now someone is probably wanting to say - but lots of women (or people in general) have to deal with unwanted comments about their personal life or get cat calls or are in danger of sexual assault from people who think they're entitled to it. Or say, someone who wants to act out a humiliation scene without a woman's consent obviously has problems that go beyond obsession with Japan. And I don't disagree. But we get these racially motivated things on top of the rest.

I'm not accusing or defending Mina here - I think it's unfair to stereotype someone by facial hair, but I accept her explanation that the men were already creepy and happened to have something that she doesn't find attractive.

The ability to change is a huge defining line to me - even though I think you shouldn't change if you don't want to. If there was something I could do to magically make people never see me as culturally different from other Americans again, I would. Now ideally, that would mean making people accept that an American can be any race, and just because that person isn't white doesn't mean they have another cultural/national background or speak other languages that they want to share with strangers asking personal questions. But you know what, I'd settle for just magically being able to make strangers not see me as Asian. Because I don't see myself that way in regards to culture, language, family, etc. I know that color-blind rhetoric is often bullshit, but being Asian honestly is nothing more than a physical appearance to me.

Jesus Jumped up Christ on a pogo stick! That's pretty damn bad. Sorry you've had to experience that shit. My first inclination is to tell them to, "Fuck off, Asshole!" to show them how un-docile an Asian person can really be, but I worry that these crazies would escalate.

Just curious, what are the stereotypes of asian men people alude to?

Yeah, I'm curious too. Unless it's primarily in the Gay community, I'm not aware of any stereotypes about Asian men.

I find some very attractive and some not - just like Caucasion men or Black men, etc.

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Re: Ep

I get you. And I agree with everything you said, and I share similar experience in the objectification treatment.

But I think HE's use of "fake" is in the context of "you're indulging in stereotyping yourself so your outrage at racism against Asians is unauthentic on the basis of your dislike of stereotypes, i.e., it's not that you have a moral objection to stereotypes, you just don't like it when it's applied to you." It's the sort of nonsensical response that people who're more interested in the gotcha! game would use, in my experience.

Re: stereotypes against Asian men

There are stereotypes aplenty for Asian men.

I can't count the times I've been asked if I know kung-fu. Like all you white people know fencing, right? This is applied more to Asian men and less so to Asian females, far as I can see.

Another stereotype is based on mass media portrayal, where Asian men are much less likely to be portrayed as action heroes. Unless it's marital arts. Then you have Jackie Chan and Jet Li and Bruce Lee. It's even more rare to see Asian men as romantic leads. As black men are often over-sexualized in mass media, Asian men are under-sexualized. It goes hand-in-hand with the model minority paradigm where Asians are seen as non-threatening to the status quo (internment camp during WW2 notwithstanding), imo. It's a general emasculation of Asian men in the eyes of the dominant culture.

In the specific context of gay/bi men, the most offensive stereotype is basically the same attitude shown in the documentary film but applied to gay Asian men - they're all so beautiful with smooth skin and they're so docile and isn't it adorable they all have small dicks. There are some white men who go for the lady boy types and they tend to assume that most gay Asians fall into that type. Dominant, assertive, masculine Asian men tend to throw some of these people with an Asian fetish for a loop. That said, I have encountered two examples where they were seeking out specifically dominant Asian men. I don't know how to feel about that, to be honest, and I am still processing that.

And yes I've had all sorts of racially originated sexual comments thrown my way. One that takes the gem is "Oh I love Asian small dicks I bet you want to be fucked by a big white cock!" Maybe, but not by you, douchebag. At least "I want to suck on your springroll" is a bit humorous.

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Re: stereotypes against Asian men

There are stereotypes aplenty for Asian men.

Don't forget math! My brother in law is of Chinese descent and is an art teacher at a public high school in a medium sized city. Once, in the teacher's break room, another teacher asked if he would help her with something because he's Asian. He wasn't expecting a math question, since he's an art teacher. But that's what he got from her. He didn't know the answer.

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Don't forget math! My brother in law is of Chinese descent and is an art teacher at a public high school in a medium sized city. Once, in the teacher's break room, another teacher asked if he would help her with something because he's Asian. He wasn't expecting a math question, since he's an art teacher. But that's what he got from her. He didn't know the answer.

Oh yes that old chesnut. But that applies to all Asians, both men and women, I think. No less irritating, of course. And I can't even complain since I AM good at math and science, lol.

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marital arts

Humorous misspelling given the context?

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Humorous misspelling given the context?

heheheh. :rofl:

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Surely we must now discuss the proper belt system for the marital arts. And who gives them out?

If a black belt in marital arts is the gold standard, are we giving those to folks who have been married for 50 years or folks who are on their 7th marriage?

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Surely we must now discuss the proper belt system for the marital arts. And who gives them out?

If a black belt in marital arts is the gold standard, are we giving those to folks who have been married for 50 years or folks who are on their 7th marriage?

I always figured the marital arts referred to the skills equired in a marriage, rather than the ones you needed to get one.

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Beard is back :(

That was quick.

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Yeah, it's like wolverine healing factor, but annoying.

Which reminds me, i need to clean the bathtube from the shedding of my shower last night :stillsick:

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