Sir Noone Sword Of The Day Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Am I missing something? I have heard a lot of talk throughout the forums that a character will confront the Great Other (mainly Jon or Bran).I don't understand where this is coming from (or how this would actually occur)Personally I don't even think we will see 'The Great Other' otherwise wouldn't it be possible to encounter R'hllor, physically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Stark Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 There is something that Bran saw whilst unconscious in Game of Thrones in the Land of Always Winter that probably needs destroying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dornishman's Wife Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Though I doubt that this "something" has much to do with the one-person devil that Melisandre imagines. Could just as well be the city of the White Walkers or something.And if they happen to have a single leader, I doubt he has ever even heard of R'hllor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittleLinger Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Am I missing something? I have heard a lot of talk throughout the forums that a character will confront the Great Other (mainly Jon or Bran).I don't understand where this is coming from (or how this would actually occur)Personally I don't even think we will see 'The Great Other' otherwise wouldn't it be possible to encounter R'hllor, physically?Yep, you're missing that people tend to believe in physical gods, both about real world, and about ASOIAF, for some reason.Of course we won't be seing a uber-Other god... Or any god for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady m Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Well, there's also no solid evidence that The Others and The Great Other are the same thing. This might be GRRM playing semantical word games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittleLinger Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Well, there's also no solid evidence that The Others and The Great Other are the same thing. This might be GRRM playing semantical word games.Yes, this too. She mentiones Great Other and people imagine... A big Other. I doubt they would have if his name was J'rhmolo or something. Just like they don't imagine Rhlorr as a big dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSnow Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I think this is true that people miss interrupt it as a being, i think the battle will be the followers of Rhollor and The Others who follow the Great Others. If their is a "Significant Other" it might be a priest of The Great Other the same a Rhollor being represented by the Red priest mostly Mel at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I never imagined the Gods in the ASOIAF universe to be like the ones from the Middle Earth or the TES universe they haven't been known to have any real direct influence on the world.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Nan Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Yeah I don't get it either. Melisandre is the only person who talks about the "great other" because it's the evil counterpart of Rh'llor. That doesn't mean theres actually going to be a great other in the story, people just associate it with the "others". I doubt we're meeting any deities in the story.But thats the cause for all the theories about who the great other is. its funny because there are other religions in the books that people don't expect will turn out to be a person. you never see theories like "euron greyjoy is the storm god, and here's why" or "who is the smith". Just because Melisandre sees bloodraven in a vision and ties it to the others doesn't mean there is a great other, she's just a fanatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady m Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I think this is true that people miss interrupt it as a being, i think the battle will be the followers of Rhollor and The Others who follow the Great Others. If their is a "Significant Other" it might be a priest of The Great Other the same a Rhollor being represented by the Red priest mostly Mel at the moment.This presumes R'hllor is a force for good in world, which again, not a presumption I make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makes No Sansa Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Why the hell do people believe Rh'llor is the one true God just because it's related to fire? I think Melisandre is an idiot who has no idea what she's talking about. Sure she sees things in her flames, but she doesn't even interpretate them properly. Sorry, I just happen to hate all this R'hllor vs The Great Other thing people think the series will be about in the end. We haven't seen such thing as a supernatural God showing up, what makes you think we will in the next two books? And why should it be R'hllor's followers? Do you really think Jon Snow will follow R'hllor? I think you're completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSnow Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 This presumes R'hllor is a force for good in world, which again, not a presumption I make. I'm not saying that R'hllor is the force of good, but is the god of Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groat Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Sorry, I just happen to hate all this R'hllor vs The Great Other thing people think the series will be about in the end. We haven't seen such thing as a supernatural God showing up, what makes you think we will in the next two books?What do you call Bran looking through the eyes of the weirwood trees? He my not be as infallable and "god-like" as what we would normally think of as a god, but it seems to me Bran and Bloodraven are the old gods that the North worships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little and Less Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I've always had the feeling that GRRM is trying to show us that the masses will believe what they want to believe...."power resides...ya-ya"....but in the end there really is no one true religion. And people will base their interpretation of "God(s)" the way they want to believe it, whether its a force of all good, all bad, and/or all powerful. I think the red comet was GRRM's way of foreshadowing the whole question of religion in Westeros (North and South) and the Free cities and that it can be interpreted any number of ways. One person's "Great Other" is another person's "Stranger" - it doesn't necessarily manifests itself in an actual physical/magical being.Religion has always been just that, it gives people an outlet for hope in a grim and sometimes harsh world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reek Da Villain Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Well, I think we can all agree that the Others are intelligent beings. And someone must be commanding their legions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady m Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I'm not saying that R'hllor is the force of good, but is the god of Fire.Ah, okay. I don't believe that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Crow Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 There is something that Bran saw whilst unconscious in Game of Thrones in the Land of Always Winter that probably needs destroyingNo, he saw something that made him cry out in fear but we're never told what that was. Given that everything else he saw in that vision was more or less in real time, my own theory is that he cried out in fear not because he saw the demon king surrounded by the legions of hell, but because he saw the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSnow Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 No, he saw something that made him cry out in fear but we're never told what that was. Given that everything else he saw in that vision was more or less in real time, my own theory is that he cried out in fear not because he saw the demon king surrounded by the legions of hell, but because he saw the future. What don't you believe, that R'hllor Is the God of fire? Or That R'hllor is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locke and key Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I think the red priest actually make up a lot of rhlors powers using sorcery like glamours and shadow babies, i don't think there is a real great other or real rhlor, they're just explanations for the magic in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 There's no gods, only magic.It is know. :closedeyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.