Pellaeon Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 So what was the use? I have no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiola Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Fill Tyrion/Olenna quotient; more details about how much the Tyrells are doing to help the common folk while the Lannisters have done essentially nothing for them; show that the Lannisters need Tyrell support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eogh Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Also, the comment Olenna makes about hearing of Tyrion's debauchery and wickedness, yet here he sits prudently and calmly trying to save money for the realm. Shows the difference between peoples' perception of Tyrion and the reality of things. Also shows how smart Olenna is, both with that comment and showing how aware she is of expenses, finances, etc. All in all a great scene and very useful I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Lion Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It just felt like a way to get Tyrion and Olenna some screen time. For the viewer it didn't do much, we already knew the realm is having money problems and the show hasn't exactly been subtle so far with showing Olenna is sharp.I just peg it down to needing more Tyrion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dove Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Someone on the board said that Peter Dinklage has a stipulation in his contract that amounts to him getting a certain amount of screentime every episode, I think? I'm not sure if that's true but it would make a lot of sense, and this scene strikes me as funny, informative filler like that.It just re-iterates how needed the Tyrells are and how dire the situation is without their aid, helping to explain how Olenna is getting away with going around sassin' everybody. (Like she wouldn't anyway, haha, but you know what I mean.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scurvy Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 So she could say, "A wedding is safer, don't you think?"It was a joke for book readers. Yeah, a wedding is safer. They all work out so well for the bridegroom and guests.She could have said:A fool's blood. A king's blood. Blood on a maiden's thigh. But, then, she'd be a fool and she's decidedly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarl the climber Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I think there is some signifigance to this. Tyrion just got his new job, hes worried about paying for the wedding. He goes to the Tyrells hoping for help, she gives him a hundred reasons why she should not and then goes ahead and offers to pay for half. This is a great releif to him and he proudly announces it to his Father, who does not give a shit. So what it really does is remove a potential irratant between the Tyrells and Tyrion and keeps him fighting with his family instead of him fighting with the Tyrells over money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiola Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 So she could say, "A wedding is safer, don't you think?"A red herring for people like my brother/friend who know a red wedding is coming, but know not which wedding it is. I was pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newstar Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Apart from the things already mentioned--giving Diana Rigg something to do, giving Peter Dinklage something to do, putting Tyrion and Olenna in a room together and watching them bounce off each other, highlighting the Lannisters' dependence on the Tyrells' resources--we got a bit of a hint as to how Tyrion has changed. There's Olenna's conclusion that Tyrion isn't the "drunken, impertinent, debauched" person she'd expected, but rather a "browbeaten bookkeeper," and the way he's behaving throughout the scene. Olenna is perky and chipper, bringing the sass, and he seems lifeless and worn down in comparison, a dutiful worker bee for his family with very little of his former swagger. Even as Hand, facing down an imminent siege, he had a certain amount of flair and charisma, but now, he's been crushed under Tywin's boot and it's plain for all to see. There are a few signs of his old self in the last scene with Tywin, where he's cracking jokes about Sansa missing Loras' favourite bits, but that's put to a stop very quickly by Tywin as things get very serious very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Desmond Wine's Bane Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It demonstrated that Olenna is more than just the family matriarch. She is all over what is needed to govern the entire realm and sets things up for a forthcoming joust between Olenna and Tywin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underzaker Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It seems as if Olenna runs the Tyrell houshold , which sames tad strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkie Baelish Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It's becoming more and more painfully obvious that the show just doesn't have enough for Tyrion to do this season, and is just trying to create these scenes to fulfil Dinklage's contract and give him something to do. His arc only really picks up in the second half of ASOS, so we'll have to make do with such scenes for now. I'm guessing Dinklage is contractually obligated to be in every episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Probably true, though do stil enjoy his scenes, and none of them have been a waste of time (except, perhaps, the Pod scene) I think that now, with his wedding to Sansa coming up he'll have more to work with. I'm dreading the bedding scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It was fun. Is that not enough in itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It was fun. Is that not enough in itself?Good Point :laugh: Posters on this forum (myself included on occasion) often get so caught up with notions of "plot advancement" that they forget that the show is about entertaining, not just advancing the story. And this scene was certainly entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Mithrandir Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Also, the comment Olenna makes about hearing of Tyrion's debauchery and wickedness, yet here he sits prudently and calmly trying to save money for the realm. Shows the difference between peoples' perception of Tyrion and the reality of things. Also shows how smart Olenna is, both with that comment and showing how aware she is of expenses, finances, etc. All in all a great scene and very useful I think. That comment made me think of Tyrion's first meeting with the Red Viper, he says something along those lines. And her bowel moving comment made me think of Roose and Jaimie's (hopefully)forthcoming convo/date :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBadgerlock Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It's becoming more and more painfully obvious that the show just doesn't have enough for Tyrion to do this season, and is just trying to create these scenes to fulfil Dinklage's contract and give him something to do. His arc only really picks up in the second half of ASOS, so we'll have to make do with such scenes for now. I'm guessing Dinklage is contractually obligated to be in every episode.Yeah. Tyrion is a passenger so far this season. Lots of his chapters in ASoS were merely him being our eyes in KL. In the show we can skip that and just go directly to Cersei/Sansa/LF/Varys/Tywin/Olenna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotun Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Pretty much like last season we had scenes about the planning for the battle of the Blackwater, this year we have scenes about the planning of the Royal Wedding. It's all about building people's expectations so that things don't come out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songlian Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 It was fun. Is that not enough in itself?Amen. I was just going to point that out myself. For my part, if they could do a sequel to GoT and title it "The adventures of Olenna Tyrell", I would be positively blissful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Desmond Wine's Bane Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Amen. I was just going to point that out myself.For my part, if they could do a sequel to GoT and title it "The adventures of Olenna Tyrell", I would be positively blissful.I don't think 'Cheese Boy' would agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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