Ghost of Harrenhal Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 To start, I first watched season 2 of the game of thrones series before I read aCoK so this scene was a bit confusing for me. In the show, this is the scene where arya, gendry, and hot pie leave harrenhal, so as I was reading through the weasel soup scene in the book, obviously I noticed that the events leading up to the event were different than in the show, but I was still expecting her to flee after the fight and when she didnt, I couldnt understand why... She starts the revolt, along with Jaqen and a few others, they kill all the lannister guards and release the northmen who start killing all the other lannister men. At the end of the scene jaqen tells her the debt is paid, changes his face, and tells her he is leaving. Arya tells him that she needs to go to winterfell. and then jaqen leaves and arya goes to her bed and goes to sleep...WHAT?! why would she not just leave when thats all shes been thinking about the whole time shes been here and there are no guards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOCR815 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Maybe once Harrenhal fell into the hands of the Northmen she thought she might be able to trust one of them to see her home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woftis Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Once the Lannister's were dead there wasn't any real threat in Harrenhall. From that point it was a castle held by the North.She could have pissed off on her own, tired and hungry, but why bother? Get a good night's sleep and then get a proper escort back to Winterfell in the morning. I know what I'd do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedChick Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Yeah, I watched the show first as well and I'm pretty surprised how differently the whole Harrenhal situation went in the book. However, I could understand why she didn't leave. Harrenhal fell to Northmen/Stark's bannermen so Arya probably saw an opportunity to get back home through them (I'm still reading the book btw). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Harrenhal Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 Yeah, I watched the show first as well and I'm pretty surprised how differently the whole Harrenhal situation went in the book. However, I could understand why she didn't leave. Harrenhal fell to Northmen/Stark's bannermen so Arya probably saw an opportunity to get back home through them (I'm still reading the book btw).that was what I was thinking as it was happening as well. However, even after the overthrow she didnt ever attempt to get closer to any of the northmen and/or reveal herself to anyone..Instead she murders a fellow northmen to escape when she could have just left without anyone noticing if she would have left during the revolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Aegon Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 that was what I was thinking as it was happening as well. However, even after the overthrow she didnt ever attempt to get closer to any of the northmen and/or reveal herself to anyone..Instead she murders a fellow northmen to escape when she could have just left without anyone noticing if she would have left during the revoltWell after she freed Glover she probably thought about revealing herself. But Roose Bolton is not known for his generosity. I think she wanted to know if she could trust him or not. In the end, she couldnt trust a man that kept Hoat around so she took off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woftis Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I think it's mentioned that she missed her chance to reveal herself to someone after he left and she didn't trust the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringKing Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Jaqen twice warned Arya not to mock the gods while they were in Harrenhall's godswood. Then she wastes her last death wish on freeing the northern prisoners when this would have happened without her intervention because Hoat and Bolton had already plotted to do exactly the same. Jaqen even goes so far as to suggest Joffrey as the final name so that her last wish will truly count for something. After the "weasel soup" takeover Jaqen dismisses the wish as her "mad dream". What I believe transpires is that the mocked god(s), having granted the wish, in fulfillment of Jaqen's pledge, then (mockingly?) deny Arya the initiative and courage to claim her true identity to Glover, Bolton or any other Stark bannermen at Harrenhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necmiye Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'm at this point in the book and actually had the same question. I agree with what some of the others have said--after she freed Jquen of his oath (even though I think she had legitimate claim to another death), she felt powerless again, a Mouse. By not revealing who she was or trying to escape she was playing it safe until she develops the courage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errant Bard Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 She stays because she wants to go to Riverrun and her family instead of following Jaqen (after all he did propose her to follow him and she declined for that very reason,) and having liberated the castle, it is natural to consider that you have actually more chance to reunite with your family by sticking with their army than by fleeing them and taking your chances with whoever roams the woods... taking into account that you have no horse, no map, and no friends with you if you leave just there. It would have been pure, stupid suicide to leave then. It's like wondering why Lame Lothar didn't (spoiler for end of ASOS)flee the Twins on foot after the Red Wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faceless Man Friday Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Well after she freed Glover she probably thought about revealing herself. But Roose Bolton is not known for his generosity. I think she wanted to know if she could trust him or not. In the end, she couldnt trust a man that kept Hoat around so she took off. I agree. I thought her plan was to secretly reveal herself to Glover but she did not have time to do so before Bolton arrived and Glover departed. Then she was trapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmaVSkarma Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 To start, I first watched season 2 of the game of thrones series before I read aCoK so this scene was a bit confusing for me. In the show, this is the scene where arya, gendry, and hot pie leave harrenhal, so as I was reading through the weasel soup scene in the book, obviously I noticed that the events leading up to the event were different than in the show, but I was still expecting her to flee after the fight and when she didnt, I couldnt understand why... She starts the revolt, along with Jaqen and a few others, they kill all the lannister guards and release the northmen who start killing all the other lannister men.At the end of the scene jaqen tells her the debt is paid, changes his face, and tells her he is leaving. Arya tells him that she needs to go to winterfell. and then jaqen leaves and arya goes to her bed and goes to sleep...WHAT?! why would she not just leave when thats all shes been thinking about the whole time shes been here and there are no guards?waht???????? do u think the girl is crazy to just go alone to winterfell? did u ever took a look in the map that comes in the book? and with war? even with no war she wold probably end up dead for starving or raped and after, dead for starving.. did u forgot how it was when she was with the recruit to the night watsh? it was just too far to let her have faith that she would make it.. and plus, she was hoping that there would be someone from the north men that may be trustful and help her.. only when she sees that riverrun is not to far and she knows that if she stays she is going to dye than she has no other choice.. isn't that obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharmaVSkarma Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 that was what I was thinking as it was happening as well. However, even after the overthrow she didnt ever attempt to get closer to any of the northmen and/or reveal herself to anyone..Instead she murders a fellow northmen to escape when she could have just left without anyone noticing if she would have left during the revolt do u guys actualy read the book?? couse she says there that she is afraid that they would sell her to the lannisters or rape her and after sell her to the lannisters as yoren once said to her couse man are more loyal to money.. so to all that people that say that some PVOs are boring and that GRRM could count the storie with less chapters of those PVOs here's why he couldn't.. if even with such detail of characters thinking, seeing, smelling, feeling.. people stil make stupid questions like these ones.. imagine if he didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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