Syphon the Sanitator Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 In the Hedge Knight comic, we first see ser Duncan the Tall take up his falling star and oak sigil.Brienne later recalls seeing a shield in her father's armory and has her own shield repainted to match it.Is this a deeper connection or do you think it was just a "Ooh, pretty picture" moment?I'm bringing this up because a Feast for Crows featured a descendant of Dunk, which got me thinking. Who else could it possibly be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I think Brienne is descended from Dunk in some way, as GRRM did say we'd see a descendent of Dunk's in AFFC, and Brienne is one the primary POVs in AFFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphon the Sanitator Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Exactly. That's what I'm thinking too, but it seems to me that it is a bit too obvious for GRRM's usual tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Most people think she's descended from Dunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Exactly. That's what I'm thinking too, but it seems to me that it is a bit too obvious for GRRM's usual tastes.Actually I would think it wouldn't be that noticeable as some readers of ASOIAF don't read Dunk and Egg, and it's only a little hint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Man Has Said Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 It is known.Anyway, I thought it was a fairly subtle hint from GRRM - Dunk isn't mentioned anywhere in any of Brienne's POVs that I recall, but the description of the shield was pretty much definitive IIRC. I think it's canon enough to be in the wiki. (going to check)ETA: there is mention of this "widespread speculation" in Brienne's page on the wiki, and there's another page to the same effect in the 'theories' category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendel Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 It's likely that Brienne has an ancestor in Dunk.Moreover, there's this theory that Dunk also had a thing with Old Nan, making Hodor his descendant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dornish Direwolf Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Great, now I have to unwillingly picture Old Nan having sex now too! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Great, now I have to unwillingly picture Old Nan having sex now too! Thanks!Watch it in the "Young Nan? kisses a tall guy in the Winterfell godswood" perspective Bran gets during his first weirnet experience :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleDirewolf Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I'm pretty sure Brienne is decended from Dunk, and she is basically Dunk reborn. Her sense of knightly honor, wanting to do what's right, going on a quest. I heart both Brienne and Dunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imp Riker Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I guess this makes Podrick a stand in for Egg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterKing Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I guess this makes Podrick a stand in for Egg?Never thought of that,but this makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Bluto Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I don't even feel like it is implied in a subtle way... GRRM makes it pretty darn clear.The only thing we're missing at this point is the story of how Dunk ends up starting a family lineage considering he becomes a KG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousGeorge Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Yerp this is pretty much a lock. Go through all the other POVs in AFFC and it really doesn't make sense for it to be anyone else IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elba the Intoner Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I guess this makes Podrick a stand in for Egg?No it makes Jaime the stand in for Egg. In the Dunk and Egg stories a Targ prince says to Dunk "I dreamed of you." just as Jaime says to Brienne. Also, Egg shaves his head to avoid recognition just like Jaime does when he starts out on his journey with Brienne. :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Gwynhyfvar Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 No it makes Jaime the stand in for Egg. In the Dunk and Egg stories a Targ prince says to Dunk "I dreamed of you." just as Jaime says to Brienne. Also, Egg shaves his head to avoid recognition just like Jaime does when he starts out on his journey with Brienne. :devil: I do see your point about Jaime but the Targ prince with the dream wasn't actually Egg right? I think what works for Pod as Egg is his youth, his position relative to a mentor who acts like a true knight but probably isn't really one, and his innocent perspicacity.What would seal the deal in either direction is if one of them were a secret Targ ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elba the Intoner Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I do see your point about Jaime but the Targ prince with the dream wasn't actually Egg right? I think what works for Pod as Egg is his youth, his position relative to a mentor who acts like a true knight but probably isn't really one, and his innocent perspicacity.What would seal the deal in either direction is if one of them were a secret Targ ;)Yup, exactly. :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleDirewolf Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I guess this makes Podrick a stand in for Egg?Wow, hadn't thought of that. Yes! Pod/Egg, both three letter nicknames, both kind of similar in meaning. Like, a pod containing a seed, and egg. OK that's just a kinda-sorta. But yeah there are other similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I just don't see it being Old Nan. The chick that's kissing him in the Godswood is just standing on her toes, Dunk is 6'11", the only chick who could kiss him just by standing on her toes is Tansy Too-Tall. Old Nan is supposed to be a little bitty thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three eyed wolf Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I just don't see it being Old Nan. The chick that's kissing him in the Godswood is just standing on her toes, Dunk is 6'11", the only chick who could kiss him just by standing on her toes is Tansy Too-Tall. Old Nan is supposed to be a little bitty thing.Maybe she shrunk with old age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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