jaimereborn Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 So in general reading through the 'who will die' and 'what will happen next' threads - it seems the majority of people only see a very grim future awaiting Arya. Where is the evidence for this? And under what circumstances? Of course, she is a fan favourite, so if she DOES die I have a feeling George would only be able to do this towards the end of the series, and in massively game-changing circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 "I see you, wolf child. Blood child. I thought it was the lord who smelled of death . . ." She began to sob, her little body shaking. "You are cruel to come to my hill, cruel. I gorged on grief at Summerhall, I need none of yours. Begone from here, dark heart. Begone!"Doesn't sound like the prophecy of someone who ends well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo Attano Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Because death has been such a major aspect of her storyline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qhorin Fivehands Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Arya just seems like a character who will definetly have more of an imapct on the series, but ultimately will die. I don't know why, her arc is heavily infused with death, maybe that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Lion Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Because of the route she's headed down. It isn't like she'll just be able to switch back to Arya of Winterfell after she's done with her kill list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimereborn Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 I always felt all the references to death are her eventual affiliations with the house of black and white, and her obsession with death and taking life in penance for the lives that were taken from her. arya is one fucked up child, and this is largely to do with the fact that she is consumed by grief and anger - i feel that this is why people see 'death' and 'darkness' in her soul: it is what drives her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kienn Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 If by everyone you mean some people, it's because there're some people who believe any individual character will die and some people who believe they'll live.Look around more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Nastja Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Did GRRM not say that Arya was one of his favourite characters? Surely he wouldn't kill her off. That said, that may be all the more reason to kill her off. Hmm, this one's a toughie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimereborn Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 ^funny guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea Darling Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I think Arya's story is the most wide open right now of all the surviving Starks. Who knows what will happen to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu1987 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Doesn't sound like the prophecy of someone who ends well.I always thought that this didn't refer to Arya's death, but more that death will follow Arya wherever she goes. It has been proved so far, maybe in the end will be tragic and it will catch up with her, but somehow I believe Arya will survive it all. Also, nothing beats a Sunday on ASOIAF :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarosh Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 This passage from book one:"You'll be sewing all through winter. When the spring thaw comes, they will find your body with a needle still locked tight between your frozen fingers."Arya didn't think it was funny. "I hate needlework!"i can believe it is not foreshadowing if i try hard enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I always thought that this didn't refer to Arya's death, but more that death will follow Arya wherever she goes. It has been proved so far, maybe in the end will be tragic and it will catch up with her, but somehow I believe Arya will survive it all. Also, nothing beats a Sunday on ASOIAF :)Don't think you can rack up a bodycount like hers, devote yourself to revenge and still be breathing at the end of A Dream of Spring. I'm sure Martin's going to let a few murderous sorts through the net to remind us that life isn't fair, but I think that's all the more reason to suspect Arya won't be one of them.This passage from book one:"You'll be sewing all through winter. When the spring thaw comes, they will find your body with a needle still locked tight between your frozen fingers."Arya didn't think it was funny. "I hate needlework!"i can believe it is not foreshadowing if i try hard enoughNice catch! Though if that's the case she will at least meet Jon Snow again, in another castle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcb Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I have a hard time imagining "happily ever after" for any of the lead characters. Sansa? Arya? Bran? Jon? Jaime? Tyrion? Theon? They all are broken, damaged, fucked up to various degrees (from "seriously" to FUBAR). Maybe Daenerys can have her "happily ever after", if someone opens the very first American high school in Westeros and appoints her head cheerleader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 This passage from book one:"You'll be sewing all through winter. When the spring thaw comes, they will find your body with a needle still locked tight between your frozen fingers."Arya didn't think it was funny. "I hate needlework!"i can believe it is not foreshadowing if i try hard enough:agree: This is pretty much what I was going to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimereborn Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 even that foreshadowing passage doesn't explicitly point to death, though. prophecies like that are so ambiguous, her 'body' could be in a number of different states when found... with George you never know how he'll use the nuances of those words to craft an entirely different situation out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARYa_Nym Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 She has the most foreshadowing for it and the most specific.Besides Jon's line he also has another where he dreams of Starks he can't get to. Everyone else in the dream is either dead or likely died (Benjen) and this is from AGoT before they all died.Ned said that the lone wolf dies and Arya later called herself that. He said being like Lyanna and Brandon leads to an early grave. Cat of the Canals being a likely Molly Malone reference.http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/82799-is-cat-of-the-canals-molly-malone/Parts of her story also does seem like O'ren from Kill Bill who died and was the best character for me personally. Of course AGoT is from way before that and since he put the foreshadowing so early on I think he always planned for her to die if she does.In the death thread it was discovered that Arya is a lot like Antigone who also dies. I doubt Arya will die in the same way though.His supposed promise to Paris can't be taken as a guarantee.2. George R. R. Martin Will Kill AnyoneMartin's wife Parris once told Weiss and Benioff that she knew a certain character would survive until the end. How? Her husband had promised not to kill her favorite character. When Weiss and Benioff later mentioned this to Martin, he impishly said, "Oh, I just told her that." The upshot: nobody's safe.http://www.lamag.com/laculture/culturefilesblog/2013/05/06/5-things-i-learned-about-game-of-thrones-from-the-shows-writersOf course the death could be symbolic but I think it leans more towards literal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendels Children Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 for some time I was clinging to something a friend told me, she said GRRM has quoted or maybe it was his wife... that he wont be killing off Arya because his wife is too attached to the character.. but as GRRM says himself, "art is not a democracy"EDIT; oh relevance to the post above ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florent Vixen Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Some people think pretty much everyone is going to die. I don't really think she or any ofthe remaining Stark kids will die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimereborn Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Tbh most people seem to think Sansa is the safest... that seems a sure bet for George to kill her off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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