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Jon or Rickon for KiTN?


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Rickon. He'll obviously have a regent for the first 10ish years, but his claim is ultimately stronger and better. If Jon is a legitimate child of Lyanna, he comes after Rickon anyway, and Robb's will was written under the pretense that Rickon was dead.

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Rickon. Jon has no claim compared to what Rickon has. Besides, it would pretty stupid after his many inner struggles where Jon ends choosing duty above power and now he suddenly decides to be KiTN.

It's a fairy tale and it's cheesy so no, Jon won't be KiTN.

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No one. And no one will end up being. The north will be involved in yet another civil war than will make the Others ivasion all the more easy. UnCat will probably burn the Twins and brigde and then the north will be isolated and reinforcements+supplies won't be able to make it to the north when the other kingdoms realise how dumb their game of thrones was, so the few people not to be killed by the WW will starve to death!!!

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Rickon. Jon has no claim compared to what Rickon has. Besides, it would pretty stupid after his many inner struggles where Jon ends choosing duty above power and now he suddenly decides to be KiTN.

It's a fairy tale and it's cheesy so no, Jon won't be KiTN.

If Jon was legitimized by Robb (which happened with high probability), he has a claim, and it's stronger than Rickon's as long as everyone assumes that he is Eddard's son.

But most importantly: If Robb named Jon heir, it would be his duty to restore Winterfell and to reestablish Stark-reign in the north, so he would choose that rather than Stannis offer, which btw would've been connected to breaking one of the most cherished Stark customs by burning the Godswood.

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I love how Bran isn't included even though his claim definitely comes before Rickon's. I'd rather see Jon, truthfully. Robb wanted him to succeed him and Rickon is too much of a variable for me to get behind. He could be a great leader, but he could also be a really poor one. It's all up in the air.

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If Jon was legitimized by Robb (which happened with high probability), he has a claim, and it's stronger than Rickon's as long as everyone assumes that he is Eddard's son.

But most importantly: If Robb named Jon heir, it would be his duty to restore Winterfell and to reestablish Stark-reign in the north, so he would choose that rather than Stannis offer, which btw would've been connected to breaking one of the most cherished Stark customs by burning the Godswood.

No it was not, Jon said his vows to the Night's Watch. His duty is there, for life. And Jon couldn't care that much about religion, how many times have we seen him pray or even thinking about the Old Gods? As for Robb's word it was done recognizing that Rickon was dead and leaving Robb no other choice but to go for the bastard boy but as it happens, Rickon is alive, and in better condition to be Lord of Winterfell than any of the other Starks (one is becoming a tree, other is sworn to the NW and is likely a Targ, other is becoming a FM and the other is a woman and married to a Lannister). Rickon is the only choice.

Lastly, Jon believes Rickon and Bran alive and it goes against all his morales to go ahead and steal their claim and forsake his own vows and oaths.

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I love how Bran isn't included even though his claim definitely comes before Rickon's.

Well if you read the books, you'll know that his path is even less likely to lead to WF's lordship/kingship than Jon's. It's not that we forget about him, but it would seem very unlikely.

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There will be no King in the North, Robb proved what a smart idea that was. If the North continues with their war for succession then they deserve to be wiped out for being so damn stupid.

who will be Lord of Winterfell and the North? when everything is said and done, Rickon will be Lord and all future Stark lords will be born from him. Sansa will return to Winterfell so I guess she'll be Lady of Winterfell until Rickon comes of age.

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