hodor stark Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 It's all just one big, elaborate dream by Bran. He's actually just still hanging out in bed and Nan is reciting this whole thing. Nothing really happened. hahah if that happend id personally murder grrm much as i love the guy lol :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
space Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 In order of characters importance i kind of think of it like thistier 1 (all pretty equal)tyrion--------jon------------danytier 1-abran----arya---sansa---cersei---jamie----theontier 2arianne---victarion---davos---sam---briennewildcardsLF. Varys then everyone elsei'd throw ned in tier 1 and catelyn in tier 1a while th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 From the beginning I had the feeling it was never about the throne or one person who's going to sit on it,it was about the Wall and the Others. So I would say this story is a sum of all the characters who would have important role to play in coming war. Jon,for sure cause he's been the only one who was uot there on and beyond the wall all time,Bran cause his story has little or nothing to do with other stories,all that build up must be for something. Dany only cause dragons are obvious choice in fighting things that have to be burned to die. Everyone will have a role to play imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejhawman Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I think it's a story that will be read in history classes at Meereen City Community College in a course entitled, "Holy Shit We Dodged A Bullet There 101". That is, it's a story about the social upheaval of Westeros, specifically focusing on the Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, and Targaryens. Historians hundreds of even thousands of years in the future will look back at each event and wonder how foolish their ancestors were. :bowdown:Pretty much this.Not just MCCC, but the whole planet. "Why is humanity not a race of living Sno-Cones? As stupid as our ancestors were, the Others must have had brains of rock." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night'sQueen Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 I think it's a story that will be read in history classes at Meereen City Community College in a course entitled, "Holy Shit We Dodged A Bullet There 101". That is, it's a story about the social upheaval of Westeros, specifically focusing on the Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, and Targaryens. Historians hundreds of even thousands of years in the future will look back at each event and wonder how foolish their ancestors were.Brilliant. LOLLOL.I'm imaginging a bunch of trustifarians in sweatpants at Oldtown U sexting each other while their prof is like "...and then two Baratheon brothers, Renly and Stannis, also claimed the crown, the former killed the latter, and send a fleet to claim the throne. In the meantime Robb of House Stark was killed at a wedding. Also there was much crop burning. Is anyone awake? Voodoo economics."Also brilliant. Voodoo economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair's Pantaloons Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Martin's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night'sQueen Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 At the end of the day, I think it is about the battle and the defeat/victory of the Others.So on that note, The "main" characters I would say, would be Danny as I feel (as much as I would dislike it) that her dragons will be some sort of "win the day" plot devise thing, but you never know.And then I think Jon Snow, as his eyes have been the eyes that we have seen the struggle with the Others so far.But really, every POV is a main character for their respected story :DThis is where I was at one point too ( liking Dany though), but now I'm starting to view the overall story differently. I'm going to put together a longer OP on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Summer Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Its the story of Jon, Euron, and Darkstar. Thr three dragon riders.....but No really its not one persons story there is a cast of characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night'sQueen Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 Assuming R+L=J, you could take it that Jon is the song of ice and fire. (Because R represents fire and L represents ice)So going purely on the title I'd say its Jon's story.Taking into account more than just the title and its impossible to pick out even a few characters as the main characters.I think its about the return of the Others and the Dragons (Ice and Fire)it's a story of Jon and Dany, Ice and Fire.Jon'sThe general consesus, and I believe Martin has confirmed this, is that there is not one main character.That being said, Jon Snow is the main hero.I think a strong case could be made for this being primarily Jon's or Jon and Dany's story. I'm working on a different idea but wanted to see where other readers stood on this. I hope you all will debate with me when I put out a longer post on this. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON BANK Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Its about magical forces, a war for a continent, and the ruling factions who are fighting for it. (short form) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night'sQueen Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 From the beginning I had the feeling it was never about the throne or one person who's going to sit on it,it was about the Wall and the Others. So I would say this story is a sum of all the characters who would have important role to play in coming war. Jon,for sure cause he's been the only one who was uot there on and beyond the wall all time,Bran cause his story has little or nothing to do with other stories,all that build up must be for something. Dany only cause dragons are obvious choice in fighting things that have to be burned to die. Everyone will have a role to play imho.Yes to everything you said. I see the conflict with the Others as primary, but with each reading my view on primary characters vs. ensemble changes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehnaru Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 It's a collective story. It is NOT ONLY ABOUT JON and it is NOT ONLY ABOUT DANY. It's about all the characters. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djc27 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 It's the story of the Throne in one of its most turbulent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Goat Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I'd say it is the story of the world and it's Song of Ice and Fire actually. But if I had to pick characters, I'd say that it's an ensemble of all the mayor point-of-view characters, since they all play a role in how the Song of Ice and Fire turn out. Some characters, like Jon or Daenerys might be more closely intwined with the Song (maybe, we don't know yet), but everyone among the main cast, plays their part I believe: Eddard, Catelyn, Sansa, Arya, Bran, Jon, Theon, Cersei, Jamie, Tyrion, Daenerys, Brienne, Davos, Samwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu101 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 The story is about politics and deception, well that's why I'm reading it anyway :) I guess it all depends on who you want to know more about, and who you care about the most. Personally Dany's story doesn't interest me and I honestly don't see how she's one of the mains when she's not playing the GoT. To me, Sansa and Arya are more important and interesting and their arcs have more depth to the story. But that's my opinion and I guess the best thing about the series is that it's the story of many characters. You decide whose story you want to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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