The Frosted King Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 As a lord with people looking to me for security and peace, a son like Sam is an anomaly and dangerous, at that.I wouldn't enjoy it, but I'd do everything in my power to get him to be the man Horn Hill needs him to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood of the dragoon Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 What he needed was a 'tiger mom',:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 You mean you'd lock up and chain your son to a wall, because he wanted to be a maester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 You'd chain your son in a dungeon when he provides a good alternative to being a Lord's heir?Good to know.EDIT: Gah, ninja'd by tMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Spark of House Spark Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 You're probably right, but he didn't need to be so nasty about it. He could have sent Sam to the citadel and still named his younger son as heir. Maesters renounce their titles when they swear themselves into a life of service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberry Stark Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Would you hire freaky, drug-chugging warlocks to help change your son? Threaten to kill him in a hunting "accident" if he doesn't join the NW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood of the dragoon Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 You'd chain your son in a dungeon when he provides a good alternative to being a Lord's heir?Good to know.EDIT: Gah, ninja'd by tMOI know, right? But somehow the NW is ok.No you can't be a man of learning, you have to spend your days among killers, thieves, and rapists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yea, not letting him go to the Citadel didn't make any sense to me, unless he was afraid Sam wouldn't make the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood of the dragoon Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Would you hire freaky, drug-chugging warlocks to help change your son? Threaten to kill him in a hunting "accident" if he doesn't join the NW?At least they're manly men :eyeroll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kingslayer Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I like Sam, genuine bloke. Would be a good guy to go out for a pint with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberry Stark Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yea, not letting him go to the Citadel didn't make any sense to me, unless he was afraid Sam wouldn't make the grade.Maybe he was afraid that Sam would be assigned somewhere close by, with his acquaintances, etc. If Sam's with the NW then he's no longer an embarrassment to the Tarly name. That's the only rational explanation that I could ever think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Éadaoin Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urien the Ragged Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 In that day and age? Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cressen's Fury Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I think Randyll actually knows a heck of a lot more about the game than most people. He probably knows a lot about the citadel, given its proximity to Horn Hill, and he may have a lot of reason to distrust the maesters.Also, my opinion on Randylls treatment of Sam is that it was horrible morally, but absolutely necessary politically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yea, not letting him go to the Citadel didn't make any sense to me, unless he was afraid Sam wouldn't make the grade.One can later leave the maesters if they decided to as seen with Oberyn and Whoresbane.Additionally, Randall seems more martially minded and the Night Watch's more martial then the Maesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noruego Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 I like Sam, genuine bloke. Would be a good guy to go out for a pint with."I'm so hungry *whimpers* " "These chairs are uncomfortable""I don't like the taste of beer""the glass is too cold, it's hurting my fingers""Those men looking at me are scaring me""It's too dark in here" Stimulating conversationalist I'm sure. The man does nothing but complain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James March x2 Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 As a lord with people looking to me for security and peace, a son like Sam is an anomaly and dangerous, at that.I wouldn't enjoy it, but I'd do everything in my power to get him to be the man Horn Hill needs him to be.I don't think that guy has grown fat and weak on his own.. just look at how he is getting thinner now that he joined the NW and stronger in his spirit.Samwell Tarly chose food as a refuge and compensation, one can not even fully blame his mother for rising him with high sensitivity and understanding.. which is what any mother should have done. It is my opinion that Samwell did lack a proper paternal figure right from his childhood, his father scared him or used only force and fear to keep him behaving well, without establishing a proper relationship. This had been at the basis of a growing insecurity and incapability to face difficulties and finally made of him "a coward". His mother compensated such a harsh father by being overly protective and caring, and that is why Samwell instinctively complains a lot about almost everything. That was the only thing that he could do in his childhood to externalize his discomfort within his own family..I believe it is 100% his father responsibility the child he has raised. So if I was Samwell Tarly father, he would have probably been a better man, maybe have conserved his inclination toward books and rocket science and magic, but he would have not feared me, fighting or my Valyrian steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StannisBamfatheon Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Eh probably going against the grain but I kinda agree with the OP, I mean imagine if you're the people of horn hill going from Randyll Tarly to fuggin Sam. How would he inspire any loyalty in some of the best soldiers in the realm, quivering and blubbering at the sight of blood or an over aggressive goat? Lord Sam would have been a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Lol we have dozens of threads punishing Stannis Daenerys and jon but we have a Randyl Tarly love thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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