Datepalm Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'm hoping that was just a bad episode - I don't mind silly, over the top, ridiculous storytelling, what I mind is boring, lazy, mechanical storytelling. Convenient secret tunnels filled with convenient books and convenient gunpowder. No cookie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'm hoping that was just a bad episode - I don't mind silly, over the top, ridiculous storytelling, what I mind is boring, lazy, mechanical storytelling. Convenient secret tunnels filled with convenient books and convenient gunpowder. No cookie!Exactly.My wife stepped away to do something and when she returned 10 minutes later, I was able to catch her up in one sentence. "Someone took the sheriff's files, but Crane knows of a sekrit passage to get them back." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 It's not even like someone took the files, they just...filed them. That whole entire plot was that apparently the police department doesn't have a key anywhere in the building to their own archives across the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 I'm actually impressed that they were able to move that huge safe (that sliding lid looks heavy!) across the street so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Extremely efficient, except the bit where they stuck it in some kind of disused and forgotten, yet extremely historic, Indiana Jones clutter room and covered it with a sheet in lieu of anyone actually paying any attention to the dead detective's secret files. Eh, public employees, you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertrude Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Well, she did say she needed authorization to access the files and her captain was unavailable to give it right now. So, you know, they tried. It still devolved into spooky passages and explosions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowKnight Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Bonus points for acutally having Conquest as one of the four horsemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawkcabi Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Bonus points for acutally having Conquest as one of the four horsemen.Shows my limited knowledge in these things, I was wondering why Pestilence wasn't there and Conquest was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Shows my limited knowledge in these things, I was wondering why Pestilence wasn't there and Conquest was.Technically they could've gone with nearly anything, Death is the only named horseman. The other three are just riders with a white horse, a red horse, and the black horse, and carrying various symbolic things. Its generally understand that the red means blood, and hence that rider is War (although technically he might just be Civil War specifically, and there are other ways you could interpret it), and the black rider is Famine due to symbolism!, but things are confusing regarding the rider of the white horse. He could be Conquest, Anti-Christ, or Satan or be Victory, Christ, or the Holy Spirit, or maybe something else entirely (the video game Darksiders went with Strife). Its not clear when he started also sometimes being known as Pestilence instead, but my guess would be after the black plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawkcabi Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Fez,Interesting to know. Thanks!ETA:Maybe when the phase "Pestilence, Famine, and Death" was coined it probably wasn't originally associated with the 4 horsemen, but since then and because the one rider is Death they did become associated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I always thought Pestilence made more sense than Conquest, whose purview would fall under War.Decent episode. The tunnel thing was a bit weird and the end game with witch a bit weak but still managed to progress things further.Glad to see Cho and Brown are still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Glad to see Cho and Brown are still around.Yeah, I was mildly surprised by that. I presume that they aren't going to be series regulars (at least, not Cho; Brown might have enough time in his schedule), but its cool that they weren't just one-offs.As for the episode (which, like the pilot, I watched during a lunch break), yeah, it wasn't as fun. I'm hoping it was just a bad episode and not representative of where the show is going though. And it still had some fun parts (arguing over the sales tax) and suitably creepy shots (John Cho in the morgue; and every mirror shot of the demon), so I'm not leaving it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerol Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 All this talk of four horsemen makes me want to read Good Omens again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Ex Machina Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 It seems that they're going for the interplay between the cop and civilian that I've seen in some of the episodes of Castle that I've seen.It's not even like someone took the files, they just...filed them. That whole entire plot was that apparently the police department doesn't have a key anywhere in the building to their own archives across the street.She didn't have authorization and the archives were under guard. But yes, the tunnel was waaay convenient. Especially considering how Crane could know the location based off the layout of modern buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procrastimancer Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The tunnels were a bit too convenient, true, but since I continue to love the interplay between Abbie and Ichabod, I find it all too easy to forgive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Ex Machina Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I'm hoping that was just a bad episode - I don't mind silly, over the top, ridiculous storytelling, what I mind is boring, lazy, mechanical storytelling. Convenient secret tunnels filled with convenient books and convenient gunpowder. No cookie!There needs to be some significant means for them to interact with the antagonists besides finding things. Otherwise they'll have to keep finding convenient mechanisms to enable the storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warg Arry Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I love the postit note instructions on everything for Crane. That's a lot of work and an extremely thoughtful thing to do.Also Crane seems to be channelling some level of Sherlock ability/personality.I won't lie I am loving this so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 There needs to be some significant means for them to interact with the antagonists besides finding things. Otherwise they'll have to keep finding convenient mechanisms to enable the storyline.Why I was sad they got rid of the witch in this episode. I feel like having a few recurring villains is good. They don't have to all last the whole season but it makes for more compelling television. Right now we just have John Cho's character and he's rather sympathetic.Well, there's the actual demon in the mirror but hard to think of it as a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reposado Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 i dont get why the witch came back right now. did i miss a reason why she would come back at this precise moment. seems like she could have made her move anytime in the past 200 years that wasnt when the one guy that could stop her was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawkcabi Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 i dont get why the witch came back right now. did i miss a reason why she would come back at this precise moment. seems like she could have made her move anytime in the past 200 years that wasnt when the one guy that could stop her was thereThe mirror demon instructed Cho on how to resurrect her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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