A Bong of Ice and Fire Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 i dont see how u can enjoy her story in adwd really dont understand? please elaborate why ?I like the fact that we get to see what's going on in the greater world, not just in the 7 Kingdoms. Dany's story give us a greater view.Yes, the Mereneese names & intrigues can be tiresome. And all male readers are jealous of Daario and hate him.But we get to watch Dany rule, make mistakes, learn. I want some hot Dany action in TWoW, though. If it's more Sons of the Harpy stuff, ehh... But I have faith in GRRM to deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpinAintEasy Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 the point is the single thing that you picked out of that person's post was correct and there was no need to do what you didbut i can see you have all the answers so enjoy being a bully on the forumThey didn't say she could go and melt all the Others directly with her dragons.They didn't say she could get her dragons to eat them.So are you saying that dragons aren't unique? Are you saying that they can't be used as a weapon in the fight against the others?I apologise for the direct statement against you but you don't need a direct statement to try and make someone feel stupid which seemed your intent. If that was not your intent then I am sorry once again but then you need to be more carefull not to sound condescending that way less people are apt to call you on it, percieved or real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Witch King of Braavos Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I think it's too early to declare what Dany did in Slaver's Bay a failure. A mess, certainly. But I don't think it's over yet. What Dany did was revolutionary and historic - freeing the slaves. Of course there would be a huge backlash to that. But isn't it a fight worth fighting? (How bloody and messy was the US Civil War?)Bloody practice is still better than no practice. No way to get good at something without trying. It was definitely revolutionary and historic. But what she was up against was too strong. In the end, she's just caused more suffering for the people of the bay. She should've waited until she had taken westeros( I pray to god it never happens) before trying to sort out the Ghiscari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceluby Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Yes, I am the Nazi of this forum...I merely stated my opinion that I am not so certain that dragons can be effectively used against Others. We have no proof they can, so I don't see what is the problem here... I am sorry if my opinion offended you, but that's not on me... Also, I haven't rip that comment apart, I just clarified what we know dragons can do.As for someone being superior, I imagine name calling in order to offend poster because they got something right is something we can assess as need to feel superior.Are dragons not a unique weapon?Are wights not a part of the Others army?Is fire not one of the ways to defeat a wight?ETA: There was also many IF's in that statement as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Witch King of Braavos Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 i dont see how u can enjoy her story in adwd really dont understand? please elaborate why ? I dislike Daenerys immensely for reasons I wont go into. However, her storyline is still intresting in parts, despite often being frustrating and slow. It has some good moments, and some bad ones, and some that are completely irrelevant/aggravatingly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpinAintEasy Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Are dragons not a unique weapon?Are wights not a part of the Others army?Is fire not one of the ways to defeat a wight? :agree: :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpinAintEasy Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 (How bloody and messy was the US Civil War?)Love the parallel :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 because BLOOODDD AND FFFIIIIRRREEE AND DDDDRRRAGGGUUNNZZZ!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I like the fact that we get to see what's going on in the greater world, not just in the 7 Kingdoms. Dany's story give us a greater view.Yes, the Mereneese names & intrigues can be tiresome. And all male readers are jealous of Daario and hate him.But we get to watch Dany rule, make mistakes, learn. Yeah I actually enjoyed her Mereen chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSnow House Stark Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 OP, so are you going to start a "why do people like Arya, she's a bitch" thread next? So far today you have had both Jon and Dany hate threads! Going for a record? Do me a favor and get Stannis next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I could say: I cant believe why daenerys is view like a devil......by some readersI agree. I don't understand why it seems that some readers who seem to support someone else as the eventual ruler, or PTWP, or AA, or whatever............must vilify another. I'd thought it was pretty clear, no one seems all good or all bad, especially the candidates for these various postions and prophecies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 but i can see you have all the answers so enjoy being a bully on the forumI am not a bully, and please, stop attacking me...Are dragons not a unique weapon?Are wights not a part of the Others army?Is fire not one of the ways to defeat a wight?1. We have obsidian, dragonsteel, we don't know whether CotF have some magic that can help in War with Others, so, no, dragons are not unique weapon against Others.2. Wights are part of the Others' army, with "part" being the key word3. Fire is definitely a way to kill a wight, but at the end, any fire would be able to kill a wight as we have seen. It doesn't have to be dragon's fireAlso, we should remember that dragons didn't participate in First War for Dawn, and somehow humanity prevailed. We should also remember that Field of fire kind of battlefield is impossible for these dragons to achieve given that Aegon I's dragons were significantly older, and therefore bigger than Dany's dragons. There are a lot of elements here that simply doesn't lead us straightforward to conclusion that dragons will have key role in War for Dawn 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Are dragons not a unique weapon?Are wights not a part of the Others army?Is fire not one of the ways to defeat a wight?ETA: There was also many IF's in that statement as wellI have to think that using the dragons to wipe out the armies and armies of wights that the Others seem able to make, must be worth something in the upcoming battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I was going to mention Abraham Lincoln right away, too, but I was trying not to be too argumentative, although, why I would try that when it does seem many don't, I can't say why. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raegal_targaryen Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 OP, so are you going to start a "why do people like Arya, she's a bitch" thread next? So far today you have had both Jon and Dany hate threads! Going for a record? Do me a favor and get Stannis next!i allready have, hope it goes off the rail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm an ardent Dany fan, but I don't view her as a god, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon The Mannis Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I like the fact that we get to see what's going on in the greater world, not just in the 7 Kingdoms. Dany's story give us a greater view.Yes, the Mereneese names & intrigues can be tiresome. And all male readers are jealous of Daario and hate him.But we get to watch Dany rule, make mistakes, learn. I want some hot Dany action in TWoW, though. If it's more Sons of the Harpy stuff, ehh... But I have faith in GRRM to deliver.I totally agree. When the story began, she was still a child. It has been a long process to develop and mature her character in to someone who can effectively rule and that process is still underway. I guess I always thought as a teenager she would make mistakes along the way, so I didn't hold it against her when she did. If her character continues to go nowhere, then I will lose interest. Until then I will give her the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myk Lonmouth Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 She is like Mother Teresa but with dragons. Whats not to like?Mother Teresa was a monster. I don't like Danny but she's no where near as awful as that old bitch was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow's Third Eye Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I am a Dany fan but she isn't exactly viewed as a God(ess) by me. If you look at her from the slave standpoint, she is the greatest thing since sliced bread, a walking miracle who has give them what they so desired (an incidentally undoing a great wrong the Old Valyrians did). From the ruling standpoint; she is likeable enough bu has made some grave blunders. However, when you consider her age and her lack of education and guidance, she has not done so badly as people make out. I admit she is flawed and not god(ess)like, but she is by no means terrible. Team Dany, woo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm an ardent Dany fan, but I don't view her as a god, at all.This is why, of all Dany fans, I like you and PatrickStormborn. Both of you are so understanding when it comes to Dany, her strengths and her flaws... Congratulations on that... It is a quality rarely seen among "misogynistic argumentative" "fireproof" Dany fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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