capo51 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 So I'm debating with my brother about which is the worst house, Frey or Bolton. I say Bolton because they're the flayers. It's hard not to agree that historically, House Bolton has committed the most atrocities.House Frey is just incredibly proud, prickly and will sink to the lowest of lows to get revenge.The Starks should have killed all the Boltons long ago when they rebelled (Reynes of Castamere-style). I don't know why they didn't. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Bolton is only like 3 or 4 people isn't it?Frey is gigantic.are we talking historically or from the time period of the novels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shearstone Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The Freys and Boltons are on the same level of horribleness but The Frey's win at worst to me because it least the Bolton's are entertaining. Barring a couple of Frey's they're generally annoying little shit's who deserve what they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogon'sWrath Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Over the course of Westerosi history, easily the Boltons.Over the course of the story, still the Boltons. At the end of the day, the Freys are just spiteful dicks. Bolton, in the words of Theon "has more cruelty in his pinky toe than all the Freys combined." What Ramsay does is worse than anything any of the Freys have ever done, but Roose is the real danger here. He is both intelligent and unspeakably cruel. Just not as open about it as Ramsay is. "A peaceful land, a quiet people. That has always been my rule." Of course, we have a pretty good idea of what that "peaceful land" really holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danelle Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Well the Freys, due to their involvement in the Red Wedding, are certainly hated, but then I think that House Lothston is hated as well.Even after they were extinguished, smallfolk and highborn loath them. It remains to be seen if the Freys gain a reputation as bad as the Lothstons did.The Codds also have a terrible reputation and an interesting motto, Though All Men Do Despise Us.The Boltons, I think that they survived because the Starks needed to have a rival for the North, for plot purposes of course.Another reason is that they were cruel, ruthless but never stupid. Roose tells that to Ramsay.Asha mentioned that her father bent the knee to Robert but that meant nothing. When the opportunity came he rebelled again.It is likely that Roose's ancestors, surrended the right time and begged for forgiveness from the Starks, ensuring that their House would survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Twins Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The Freys and Boltons are on the same level of horribleness but The Frey's win at worst to me because it least the Bolton's are entertaining. Barring a couple of Frey's they're generally annoying little shit's who deserve what they get.You say the Boltons are entertaining, heh. They are so much crueler than the Freys. We were upholding our honor, and defending ourselves, when Robb Stark, the King Who Lost the North, heh, and his bannermen turned into wolves and attacked us. Roose Bolton killed his king. I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherMerciless Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We were upholding our honorYeah you really did a good job upholding your honor there. Most honorable family in Westeros since the Red Wedding. [ /sarcasm]I think the Freys are the most hated family, even more than the Boltons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Boltons, for all their sins, didn't organize the most egregious slaughter in Westeros history. Not as a family, at least. Freys are so much worse than Boltons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco_Dracul Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Yeah you really did a good job upholding your honor there. Most honorable family in Westeros since the Red Wedding. [ /sarcasm]I think the Freys are the most hated family, even more than the Boltons.Yeah, Roose Bolton may have committed Regicide, but the Freys broke guest right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Handle Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'd say the Boltons are the most morally reprehensible over a long timescale, but the Freys are the more loathsome house right now.In some ways, I'd say the Freys actually have more negative qualities than the Boltons. For example Walder Frey is petty, spiteful, lecherous and cowardly, none of which really applies Roose Bolton.The Boltons are balls-to-the-wall evil, so they evoke a feeling of hatred, but also fear and maybe even grudging respect. The Frey are just so petty and cowardly that they probably evoke a feeling closer to disgust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenlyIsNotRight Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 For a long time, it was Frey, and they're still my number two for sure, but I'd have to say House "FIRE AND BLOOD AND CAPSLOCKS!" Targaryen takes the cake for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Estermonts because it's never good explained who Lord Estermont, and Eldon Estermont are and who's son Lomas is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Robert's Warhammer Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Frey. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 OK we all know how much we hate the Freys and Boltons, but what about the other houses?? One House I really don't like is House Tyrell. It's funny how member of the most powerful house, in terms of people, food etc., are the real leeches of Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First of My Name Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Frey, Bolton, Codd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 House Clegane, if it's even a house anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Well by readers- Lannister, Bolton, Frey mostlyIn ASOIAF- Pretty much every Ironborn house, Lannisters are hated by many, but of all of them the Frey's are universally abhorred by pretty much every house except the Lannisters and boltons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Robert's Warhammer Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Oh yeah and Greyjoy. Bloody pirate/Viking wannabes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Oh yeah and Greyjoy. Bloody pirate/Viking wannabes!the only IB I actually like as person is the Reader, the rest could all go die for all I care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose The Weddingcrasher Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The Lannisters (at least Tywin's brood) and Tyrells are the worst. Scheming, manipulative, traitorous, lacking any honor/morals. The Freys are very large familiy, therefore they surely have some decent members among them (I believe Robb's squire and some others had to be locked up during RW?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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