Arya kiddin' Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 This reminds me of Nephenee's topics in the summer. Nephenee had art, and his trolling was subtle. This thread is by a true Jaime fan, it's a serious thread. Nephenee actually came back with other aliases as well. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The name of the topic is misleading, I think. I should change it since I am not arguing that Jaime is A+ hero. Just that that particular act isn't "black" If pushing an innocent child from a tower is not a "black" act then I don't know what is. Jaimie didn't do it for some noble reason, he did to ensure that his incestuous relationship with Cersei remains secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSnow House Stark Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Wow... so this is the post of stupidity and psycho! "I hope I have the strength to kill and innocent kid" to cover up MY OWN BAD BEHAVIOR!!!!!!!!! Boy that makes a lot of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00mba Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Pretty sure that's the jab David Selig is making in post #4. Good point ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Nephenee had art, and his trolling was subtle. This thread is by a true Jaime fan, it's a serious thread. Nephenee actually came back with other aliases as well. :lol:I miss Nephenee and Maester Hodor. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TepidHands Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I don't really have time to debate some of the raised claims right this now, but I am just sayin' - if the life of enormously loved family depends on me killing a random kid, I hope to hell I have enough strenght to do it Some rules for you to live by, then. 1. Don't bang your kinfolk. 2. If you can't help yourself from banging your kinfolk, don't bang your kinfolk when you're visiting someone else's castle. 3. If you can't help yourself from banging your kinfolk while visiting someone else's castle, please find a room with no windows. Need for attempted murder of random child averted! It was Bran's castle to climb, not Jaime's and Cersei's to screw in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I miss Nephenee and Maester Hodor. :( Yes. It was the time of high summer, and now autumn has come. I really am dreading the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yes. It was the time of high summer, and now autumn has come. I really am dreading the winter.:crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Yeah, Ive got beef with the guy, so Ill push his kid to die. And do we have to keep saying that Jaime PUT himself in that situation? A lot of people seem to overlook that.Mladen. 32-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsaptakas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Well... thing is Bran turn out to be really boring character and Jaime becomes the most interesting character in the series, so, in a way he is justified in his attempt to kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Eric Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Jaime should be condemned for what he did to Bran. No two ways about it but other than that he's seemed to be a decent chap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl18 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The name of the topic is misleading, I think. I should change it since I am not arguing that Jaime is A+ hero. Just that that particular act isn't "black" It isn't? Really? Please enlighten us, what would you consider a black act? I would love to know. Oh, and I'm seriously considering the possibility that you are, in fact, a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl18 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Well... thing is Bran turn out to be really boring character and Jaime becomes the most interesting character in the series, so, in a way he is justified in his attempt to kill him. I assume you are being sarcastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood of the dragoon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Jaime made bad disgusting call after bad disgusting call culminating in pushing a child out of a window. Remember why he had to do this. It was too hide the fact that HE WAS NAILING HIS SISTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facebookless Man Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I can understand killing a kid to save your entire family... if the threat to your family does not stem from your behaviour in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twist Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I don't really have time to debate some of the raised claims right this now, but I am just sayin' - if the life of enormously loved family depends on me killing a random kid, I hope to hell I have enough strenght to do itRealistically under what circumstances would the survival of your family depend on you murdering some random child? It's not very likely now is it. As for the context of Jaime pushing bran out the window he and cersei had already selfishly threatened their family by repeatedly having incestuous sex therefore the original fault is their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordInDaDarkness Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Jaime throwing Bran from the tower was a heinous act. I understand the impulse but it takes a remarkably cold-hearted man to do that to a 7 year old. Jaime is GRRM's greatest character and someone I truly support in his quest for what redemption he can achieve but this is one thing I can never forgive him for. The worst thing is, no Jaime chapter has ever indicated that he regretted his action from a moral ground, only that it had made Cersei angry. Despite all his courtesy and apparent sincerity (and general lack douchiness) in his conversations and thoughts in AFFC, this one issue leads me to doubt what kind of redemption he has had. There is still a long way for Jaime to go and I don't want to him to end up as someone who, after everything, didn't change much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsaptakas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The reason why Jaime doesn't feel remorse is that because that is what reader expect from him. And, Author is known for subverting expectations in this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natasi Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I've forgiven Jaime for Bran. I think it's fate. If Bran hadn't been pushed out the window and lost the use of his legs, would Bloodraven have been able to get through to him? Bran could end up being the ultimate hero orchestrating the defeat of the Others while up in the CotF cave. His only motivation for going there was the slim hope that he would be healed. Even now that he knows he will never walk again, BR has opened his mind to the Weirwood network. I am doubtful that Bran would have given up his dreams of being a Knight to become a Tree had the incident not dashed that dream for him. In short, everything happens for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The worst thing is, no Jaime chapter has ever indicated that he regretted his action from a moral ground, only that it had made Cersei angry. False. Several chapters have. One of several: "I’m not ashamed of loving you, only of the things I’ve done to hide it. That boy at Winterfell..." Personally, I think what he did was wrong, too. I don't expect them to be perfect, just to admit when something is wrong. It's a story, if everyone was perfect, it would be very boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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