Viserys - The last dragon Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Why did GRRM keen Jeyne Westerling alive, is my "big" question. Is there any point to this? First I thought that someone might try and rescue Edmure, and releasing Jeyne at the same time, and perhaps she'd play a role. But they killed her off at the TV show- so this cant happen? What do you guys think? Is she going to play an import role further in the books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Martin said she would... I dont have the link right here, but I give you my word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Perfectly possible, GRRM confirmed we'll see her family again and the books is not the same thing as the show; they also cutted Willas and Mace, does that mean Loras will magically become Lord Tyrell next book? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserys - The last dragon Posted November 3, 2013 Author Share Posted November 3, 2013 Perfectly possible, GRRM confirmed we'll see her family again and the books is not the same thing as the show; they also cutted Willas and Mace, does that mean Loras will magically become Lord Tyrell next book? No. Not the same thing.Even though Mace is not been seen on the TV show, he is still the the lord of Tyrell in the TV show.. He will actually probably make an appearance in season 4. But the TV show can be useful for us. She cant play an extremely important role (for example actually still alive out there, and carrying Robbs child- which is a theory- that they have the wrong Jenye etc), because then GRRM would not have let her die in the TV show.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addam of Hull Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Because she isn't dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not the same thing.Even though Mace is not been seen on the TV show, he is still the the lord of Tyrell in the TV show.. He will actually probably make an appearance in season 4. But the TV show can be useful for us. She cant play an extremely important role (for example actually still alive out there, and carrying Robbs child- which is a theory- that they have the wrong Jenye etc), because then GRRM would not have let her die in the TV show.. He doesn't have so much power over the show: when D&D killed Mago off he was angry, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
complexphoenix Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not everything needs to have a point or a narrative purpose. Some things happen because that's just how events happened to shake out. I think it's a mistake to assume that every one of GRRM's narrative "moves" is done to serve an important narrative purpose. Having loose threads weave about in random-yet-realistic ways that have nothing to do with the main storylines serves to make the story feel more real. It may be that Jeyne will have no further importance but will provide us a tidbit of story. Maybe she'll remarry in two years, as per her mother's plans. Maybe she'll join the Silent Sisters, unable to get over her grief. Maybe she'll kill her mother after learning of the betrayal. Maybe she'll plot against the Lannisters. Maybe she'll play a small but important role that will be folded into another character in the TV series. But she won't be a major character, or else HBO would not have bumped her off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djinn Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Jeyne is the third head of the dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minstral Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not the same thing.Even though Mace is not been seen on the TV show, he is still the the lord of Tyrell in the TV show.. He will actually probably make an appearance in season 4. But the TV show can be useful for us. She cant play an extremely important role (for example actually still alive out there, and carrying Robbs child- which is a theory- that they have the wrong Jenye etc), because then GRRM would not have let her die in the TV show.. The show is not as useful as you probably think it is. GRRM has told the producers which characters will play a part in the series later, but they still killed them off in the end. There is a disconnect between the two which does not allow both bits of media to be viewed through the same lense. The fact that a completely different woman died, which was the equivalent to Jeyne, signals to me that they are not truly the same stories being told. They do a job that is a lot closer to the source material than other adaptions, but there are still irreconcilable differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Blackwood Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Jeyne is the third head of the dragon. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0bR Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 So you can ask these questions onlyfor him can kill her for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonNonRegis Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 He doesn't have so much power over the show: when D&D killed Mago off he was angry, so... He has no power over the TV show. When you sell creative control of your project to Hollywood, they pour money over your head. They can now do whatever they like with your world in their rendition. That's why they poured the money over your head in the first place. At most, they will go to him as a consultant, but every decision is ultimately theirs and if push comes to shove, they get their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ronin Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Well, I think the westerlings-except for Jeyne were in on the red wedding -and part of their agreement included no harm coming to Jeyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarius09 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Because not every character dies. Sometimes they just become less relevent. See:Gendry, Hotpie, The Hound etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Because even Cersei's best lines are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Gwynhyfvar Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Why did GRRM keen Jeyne Westerling alive, is my "big" question. Is there any point to this? First I thought that someone might try and rescue Edmure, and releasing Jeyne at the same time, and perhaps she'd play a role. But they killed her off at the TV show- so this cant happen? What do you guys think? Is she going to play an import role further in the books? Someone is the Blackfish, who was appointed Warden of the Southern Marches by Robb and charged with protecting his Queen. The Blackfish is not a man to take his responsibilities lightly, as evidenced by his holding Riverrun and flying the direwolf of Stark long after hope seemed lost. He is now free in the Riverlands, as is his garrison. They are arguably in contact with the BwB and Edmure and Jeyne are being transported to Casterly Rock, most likely via the Golden Tooth. Blackfish was the mastermind of the great Stark victory at Oxcross in the Westerlands that was achieved by circumventing the pass at the Tooth through secrets trails discovered by Grey Wind. The Blackfish will be rescuing Jeyne and Edmure, but be sure that Jeyne will be the principal, not his nephew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahura Mazda Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I hope to see her again, with an happy ending. She not being pregnant of Robb has been one of the saddest moment of my read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Because what happens on the show has no bearing on book canon. And GRRM posted something like, "You'll definitely see more of Jeyne Westerling" (paraphrasing but "definitely" was in there), implying that he does have a plan for her even though her show counterpart is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targaryyen Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Jeyne is the third head of the dragon. It is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl18 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Jeyne is the third head of the dragon. And the Young More Beatiful Queen, and the Valonqar, and Azor Ahai, and the Prince that was Promised and the answer to every single mystery in the series. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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