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What if the boar ran away and Robert learned the truth?


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No simply because LF only received Harrenhall because of the Lannisters, and without Harrenhall he could never marry Lysa..And let's not forget that he only killed Lysa at that time because she was going to kill Sansa

Lysa is not rational, and she wanted to marry LF desperately. He's the guy she loves, lost her virginity to, the guy who makes her feel better than Catelyn, the virtuous sister. imo she would have married him with or without Harrenhall. He is hardly a peasant. He's on the king's council. fwiw, imo he would have eventually killed her, Sansa or no, and he would have taken over Robert, again, with or without Harrenhall.

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And what makes you think Robert would let the boar run away? He would track that bastard across the Narrow Sea if he had to

The only thing that gives here is the amount of booze Lancel brought.

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Even with proffs. Don't u think that Robert pride would blind his eyes?



Like: He knows the truth, but he isn't prepared to accept it? So, he kepts his "sons"



If the truth had come out, it would be a scandall. His name would be in line, so on his reputation. So I think, the things would continue to be the same. In the sake of his pride.



PS: Sorry, I'm not from an english speaking country.


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Even with proffs. Don't u think that Robert pride would blind his eyes?

Like: He knows the truth, but he isn't prepared to accept it? So, he kepts his "sons"

If the truth had come out, it would be a scandall. His name would be in line, so on his reputation. So I think, the things would continue to be the same. In the sake of his pride.

PS: Sorry, I'm not from an english country.

I do not think, that Robert would have reacted that way. If he had loved his "children", then maybe he would have kept his mouth shut. But throughout GOT we hear him criticizing Joffrey, comparing Cersei's children unfavorably to his natural children and even telling Ned, that he does not know, how he fathered a kid such as Joffrey. True, he does not hate Myrcella and Tommen, but he does not seem to spend time with them either.

If Robert knew of the parentage of Cersei's children, I think he would be glad, since this would give him the opportunity to get rid of Cersei (high treason!), get rid of Joffrey as his heir (bastard!) and generally start over again.

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That depends...The Reach and Westerlands could very well beat those three kingdoms since they have the 2 biggest armies, the biggest fleet and are the two richer kingdoms..they could very well hire one or two companies of sellswords

Why should the Tyrells help the Lannisters?

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I do not think, that Robert would have reacted that way. If he had loved his "children", then maybe he would have kept his mouth shut. But throughout GOT we hear him criticizing Joffrey, comparing Cersei's children unfavorably to his natural children and even telling Ned, that he does not know, how he fathered a kid such as Joffrey. True, he does not hate Myrcella and Tommen, but he does not seem to spend time with them either.

If Robert knew of the parentage of Cersei's children, I think he would be glad, since this would give him the opportunity to get rid of Cersei (high treason!), get rid of Joffrey as his heir (bastard!) and generally start over again.

This.

It'd be interesting to see what Tywin would do at that point. Does he know about the incest? Whether he knows or not, he could agree with the executions, join the king, and turn against Jaime. He might then remarry and make more kids. If he does that, the Lannister line would survive, through Tywin.

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Cersei gets executed right away, certainly. Robet finds a new wife.



Jaime is out of the city and with his father's army at this point, so he escapes execution for now, but he'll go mad with a lust for vengeance. Robert will demand Jaime's head, but only as a formality. Tywin's not gonna him give up, so it means war. Robert has the North, the Riverlands, the Stormlands. The Tyrells will join him to make Margaery the new queen (which they were planning anyway). The Lannisters are on their own. Dorne won't side with either of them. The Iron Islands are in it only for themselves and may stage another rebellion. The Crownlands might be split at first but eventually come under Robert's heel.



Joffrey, Myrcella, and Tommen might survive is Ned curtails Robert's rage enough. If so, the boys are headed to the Wall and Myrcella to the Silent Sisters (or possibly married to Edric Storm and held as a hostage). If not, they're joining Mom on the walls of the Red Keep.


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Cersei and Jaime are executed, they made a fool of Robert and if he doesn't kill them purely out of rage, he'll have it done because he'll look weak if he doesn't.

Joffrey, Tommen, Myrcella are either killed or forced to the nights watch, maesters, etc so that they can never attempt a claim on the iron throne.

Tywin may attack in reaction to losing everything he's worked for, which will lead to the complete destruction of house Lannister in the west, or he accepts what's happened and remains a brewing angry old lord of the west.

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Cersei, her kids, and all remaining Lannister supporters would be killed. Jamie was already in the field since he fled so he would likely try to march his part of the Lannister forces to KL for revenge, likely being intercepted and killed/captured by a Stormlands and Reach force. Robert would likely be remarried to Marg, since Loras and Renly were pushing it, making the Reach force possible. Ned likely would have Robb call the banners to come support the Riverland lords who are being ravaged by Tywins force. Tywin would likely withdraw to the Rock and hope that Robert decideds not to kill him, since an combined force of the Reach, Stormlands, Crownlands, North, and Riverlands would kick the shit out of Tywin. In the end, Robert would destroy house Lannister, take their gold, pay off his debts, then have a big tourny, get drunk, bang his new wife and as many whores as he can find, all at the same time if he could.


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