Reborn in Fire Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 So how do you reckon Myrcella will end up crowned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn in Fire Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 So how do you reckon Myrcella will end up crowned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesword Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 As much as I hate it, I think he will not survive. I believe it will somehow involve a bad decision by Cersei. (I know big suprise there.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phonzadellika Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'll be ok with a Tommen death as long as Ungregor doesn't rape him and then bash his head into a wall. That'd be a little much. It's too bad he has to die. Thankfully I've had years to prepare for it. He's one of my favorite characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Tommen is definitely a goner along with his kittens too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khal cium Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Dead. Dead. Dead. Corn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Scorpion Knight Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I hope to see Aegon play the merciful and allow the Lannister to not get extinct, or at least not kill those innocent children. At the current moment, I don't see why Tommen can't try to escape.. I too don't think tommen is in danger from this side. tbh i think aegon himself would kill you if you presented him tommens corpse as a "present" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrich Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 So how do you reckon Myrcella will end up crowned? She might actually already be dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae Boleyn Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 So how do you reckon Myrcella will end up crowned? It's possible she can be considered already crowned, at least by Arianne and her co-conspirators. As to the general question, I'd say odds of survival for either Tommen or Myrcella kinda suck, but at least regarding the prophecy, it's entirely possible that Cersei will believe them dead when they're not - the golden shroud thing isn't explicitly pre-death for Cersei, and if she thinks they're dead then that contributes to her losing everything. On the more practical side, it really does depend on who takes the Throne and how things go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Elsa Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Does he have any hope of surviving and keeping his throne?There will be several people who are going to sit on the IT before the end [according to Martin] so he will be off the throne soon but I do hope he'll survive (though Maggy's prophecy seems to say no-no). There are three adorable children in the story, Tommen, Myrcella, and Missandei, who you just know are going to come to horrible ends.There's sweet Shireen, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raksha the Demon Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Sadly, I think poor Tommen is doomed, as karmic vengeance on House Lannister for the murder of Rhaenys (another royal child who loved kittens). Aegon will either order the boy's death himself, GRMM showing that Aegon has become as hard and cruel as his supposed Targaryen ancestors, or someone else will do it in Aegon's name or for Aegon's sake (Jon Connington, if still alive, would have no qualms, he has already vowed to wipe out all of Robert Baratheon's "blood", which could also include Shireen Baratheon). If Tommen manages to survive for a few more years, he will not be considered a child, and Daenerys will have him killed. Stannis and Melisandre probably have marked Tommen and Myrcella for death as well. My money's on the Tyrells to kill Tommen and present his body to Aegon as the latter enters King's Landing, possibly as a bribe for a union with Margaery. Mace has always wanted his daughter to be queen. The problem for any Iron Throne claimant, if he or she succeeds in seizing King's Landing and the Iron Throne and the rule of at least some of Westeros, in leaving Tommen alive, is that no matter how innocent and decent a child Tommen is, there will always be those who will rebel in his name. They might be able to leave Myrcella alone; though they should take her away from Dorne before any Dornishman-or Dornish boy - marries her, because according to Dornish law, she is the queen after Joffrey's death. If I were Aegon, I would at least contemplate marrying either Myrcella or Shireen once Tommen is dead. Another alternative would be allowing Myrcella to live as a celibate Septa or silent sister; she and her heirs could be dangerous if she is married to someone other than Aegon himself. And the flip side of Aegon marrying Myrcella; however charming and smart and good-hearted she is, she would still be regarded as either the Usurper's Daughter or incest-spawned bastard abomination; which would cast a shadow on any children she might give Aegon. If the Iron Throne's next holder decides that both Myrcella and Tommen can live as long as they will produce no children, Tommen can either become a Maester (I personally would not send a rival king to the Wall, where he might recruit an army, or someone else could recruit an army for him), or, cruelly, be castrated first to reduce the kid's likelihood of being used as a viable focus for rebellion; I doubt that anyone would risk their lives to put a eunuch on the Iron Throne. Tommen is such a nice kid; who would, with better guidance than he's getting, grow up to be a good man. It's a shame, but I don't think he's going to get the chance to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirwoodTreeHugger Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 This is one of those times when even though I know the show isn't canon I can't help but look at it. Remember when Cersei I almost poisoned Tommen (I think with sweetsleep) when she thought the battle of Blackwater was lost? Maybe he'll be poisoned by somebody he should trust. Not necessarily Cersei, but maybe. That episode was written by GRRM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Sadly, I think poor Tommen is doomed, as karmic vengeance on House Lannister for the murder of Rhaenys (another royal child who loved kittens). Aegon will either order the boy's death himself, GRMM showing that Aegon has become as hard and cruel as his supposed Targaryen ancestors, or someone else will do it in Aegon's name or for Aegon's sake (Jon Connington, if still alive, would have no qualms, he has already vowed to wipe out all of Robert Baratheon's "blood", which could also include Shireen Baratheon). If Tommen manages to survive for a few more years, he will not be considered a child, and Daenerys will have him killed. Stannis and Melisandre probably have marked Tommen and Myrcella for death as well. My money's on the Tyrells to kill Tommen and present his body to Aegon as the latter enters King's Landing, possibly as a bribe for a union with Margaery. Mace has always wanted his daughter to be queenThe problem for any Iron Throne claimant, if he or she succeeds in seizing King's Landing and the Iron Throne and the rule of at least some of Westeros, in leaving Tommen alive, is that no matter how innocent and decent a child Tommen is, there will always be those who will rebel in his name. They might be able to leave Myrcella alone; though they should take her away from Dorne before any Dornishman-or Dornish boy - marries her, because according to Dornish law, she is the queen after Joffrey's death. If I were Aegon, I would at least contemplate marrying either Myrcella or Shireen once Tommen is dead. Another alternative would be allowing Myrcella to live as a celibate Septa or silent sister; she and her heirs could be dangerous if she is married to someone other than Aegon himself. And the flip side of Aegon marrying Myrcella; however charming and smart and good-hearted she is, she would still be regarded as either the Usurper's Daughter or incest-spawned bastard abomination; which would cast a shadow on any children she might give Aegon. If the Iron Throne's next holder decides that both Myrcella and Tommen can live as long as they will produce no children, Tommen can either become a Maester (I personally would not send a rival king to the Wall, where he might recruit an army, or someone else could recruit an army for him), or, cruelly, be castrated first to reduce the kid's likelihood of being used as a viable focus for rebellion; I doubt that anyone would risk their lives to put a eunuch on the Iron Throne. Tommen is such a nice kid; who would, with better guidance than he's getting, grow up to be a good man. It's a shame, but I don't think he's going to get the chance to do so.Castration. That's very Byzantine (blinding was another alternative to death). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good King Daemon Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Dear God I hope Tommen doesn't die. My own personal crackpot theory is that Cersei is only waiting for Myrcella to reach the city, then she'll fake their deaths and smuggle them out of Kinglanding. I know it's not likely but I can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 So how do you reckon Myrcella will end up crowned?In the hands of Targaryen loyalists?Maybe the crown will be made of rope and a bit lower than it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 There will be several people who are going to sit on the IT before the end [according to Martin] so he will be off the throne soon but I do hope he'll survive (though Maggy's prophecy seems to say no-no). There's sweet Shireen, too.I have this horrible mental picture of Patchface attacking her and gnawing at her skin, like Biter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoynar Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Dead as Ned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 When/If he dies I hope Cersei sees it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gougef Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Dead as Ned. Left without a head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Many Faces Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Poor Tommen, he is unfortunately doomed. His mothers actions have doomed him since before he was born. We can only hope it is a quick and painless death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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