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  2. Not bad, but helpful. I have no aversion to teaching others the skills I have.
  3. There's actually a TV trope about this that I think applies well called The Unbuilt Trope. The short version being that a work of fiction feels like it's playing with the conventions of a genre and deviating from them but it predates the genre itself (and is probably the inspiration for the genre itself) so that the rules don't yet apply. In effect, Blade Runner isn't cyberpunk the way The Hobbit isn't epic fantasy. It was created before the rules had been codified (in the case of TH because Tolkien made those rules for LOTR) and a lot of people draw from it as the model to create most of what people now think of as cyberpunk. There's even an entry for Blade Runner. While Blade Runner (1982) is the Trope Codifier of Cyber Punk films, it is essentially a Film Noir remade with a cyberpunk backdrop. It also takes the Artificial Human concept further than most later works; when the film starts, replicants have already been invented, extensively introduced, and gone rogue; the plot is about destroying some of them; a literal deconstruction. Fantastic Racism is also lampshaded in the introduction, before any replicant even enters the set. Also, unlike a lot of "emotionless Killer Robot" sci-fi movies, the Replicants are depicted tragically; essentially they're just young children lashing out against their inevitable deaths. Deckard, meanwhile, is shown as a bit of a scumbag and potentially a rapist. William Gibson, father of cyberpunk, famously said he was shocked when Blade Runner came out as he was writing Neuromancer and knew people would think he was ripping off the film.
  4. Just a quibble but only the enslavement of Christians was abolished in the 12th century. Total abolishment was not till the late 18th century.
  5. Will our accomplishments ever be forgotten one day?
  6. N+A=J is soooo..... pre-2011.
  7. Thanks HoK In case it's not obvious from the appalling depiction that is meant to be Stick from Daredevil. loved Pebble mistaking a pillow for pigtails I totally forgot to make the pictionary witches, but I did make them naked. Yes @Count Balerion that was meant to be you. Very loosely based on this: I got all the sentences linked up, but got one start/finish the wrong way round. It kind of looks like she looking straight to camera like in the Office.
  8. Floob? Who you calling a floob?! I will flip cars and throw Molotov Cocktails all over this forum! Or I would. But I've heard this X-Ray person is a pretty outstanding moderator and I probably shouldn't cross her.
  9. No mate, both are about how closely species are related, which can in turn be used to determine when a split happened. It does not use when a theoretical split happened to determine relation because it would be impossible to determine when a split happened without already knowing how closely related two species are. And both use genetics, as well as many other methods, to determine relations. (Linnean taxonomy was created before DNA was discovered, how could it possible use just the genome to determine relation?) Cladistics is taxonomy just like Linnean taxonomy. The difference is Linnean taxonomy is arbitrary as fuck. What? Fucking everyone agrees birds and reptiles are in the same phylum, both are chordates. And I'm confident in saying birds are in the same clade as reptiles (can't even guess what you actually meant by phylum) because it's evident that birds are descended from dinosaurs and dinosaurs are descended from reptiles and clades include all descendants of a group by definition. And who the fuck said anything about species? A clade is a group of organisms with a common ancestor. Dinosaurs are a clade. Birds are a clade. Reptiles are a clade. They all include a lot more than just species. How does this support your point exactly? As he says paraphyletic groups are banned in cladistics, but not in (presumably linnean) taxonomy. A paraphyletic group is a group that includes an ancestor but not it's descendants. So you can't have a group that says "every member of x except y" in cladistics but you can in linnean taxonomy. Which is exactly what I said, birds are descended from reptiles and therefore a type of reptile according to cladistics.
  10. No new episode tonight. But Comedy Central is currently doing a Thanksgiving South Park Marathon. Honestly, the way this season is going I'll probably enjoy these repeats more than any new episode they could've made. (Please make me eat my words next week)
  11. That's interesting, there was talk in the Blade Runner thread over in entertainment on if Blade Runner is technically Cyberpunk or not.
  12. Yes she is. We have one-eyed Yna as a witness who says the Sailor's Wife does go the Isle of the Gods once a month.
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  14. A thread devoted to talking about that most 80s of genres that just keeps coming. How do we define cyberpunk? Well, I wrote on an essay on it but I tend to think of it as in the name. It's getting ****ed by technology. Cyberpunk is fundamentally a genre about the technology of humankind continuing to advance but the use of that technology being used to make the world worse or unable to resolve humanity's existing social issues. It's a noir view of the world which draws heavily from crime and detective fiction. It's kind of an interesting genre doubly because of the fact it's also something almost impossible to parody because it is always at the bleeding edge of the ridiculous. One of the most famous examples of the genre is SNOW CRASH which is about a samurai hacker/pizza boy who is the world's second greatest badass as well as named Hiro Protagonist. Yet it's a defining work of the genre. So this is a thread to talk about your favorite books, what you liked about the genre or dislike, and thoughts on whether the time has passed for it since we've kind of become a near-future cyberized corporate-run society since the 80s.
  15. I like the sound of this a lot actually. Now that you’ve mentioned it I think I’ve heard The Mortal Engine quartet classified as Cyberpunk. I’ll have to see what else is out there.
  16. Yeah that's not what post apocalyptic means.
  17. Good point, I didn’t think of it in that sense. For the rest of the people of Middle Earth not involved with the Numenoreans, is there any evidence they noticed the consequences of the breakage? It might have been catastrophic for the Numenoreans, but I think it was a bit too localized for it to be a true apocalypse.
  18. Don't worry! Let me beat up this thread (wait... that didn't come out quite right) by putting forth the fact that I absolutely love British accents. More than any other accent, and it isn't even close. It's so titillating. Like having my ears tickled (in that rare, pleasant way) by pure aural joy.
  19. Eh, this whole place is dead lately. Something is cyberpunk if the publisher says it is.
  20. I wrote an essay on the subject which I've linked above. The short version is it's a cynical dystopian vision of the future where technology has continued to advance but the social ills of humanity are just as prevalent, if not more so, because of the abuse of said technology the rich. It tends to take a noir view of reality and elements from detective as well as crime fiction reflecting present day or hypothetical future social ills.
  21. I'd argue there's a yes and a no there because while it's "Middle Ages", the Numenoreans broke the universe. It's a Fallen World because of their sins.
  22. Hmm... well, I don't think we're going to reconcile views, partly because I don't think that we're discussing the same thing. Think of the classification systems not as competing but as measuring different things. Clades are intended to determine the time that a species diverged and uses this as a basis of how closely related species are. Linnaeus' taxonomy uses similarities of genome to determined how closely species are related. It's stupid to think of one as correct and the other as incorrect, as they're not measuring the same thing; they're competing ways of categorising the same thing. Even then, those using cladistics don't even agree on whether birds and reptiles are in the same phylum, so I'm still not sure why you're so confident in expressing that. For the most part, that's not even what cladistics is doing; it doesn't profess that everything within a domain is therefore an species of the original kind. Here's an extract that took me seconds to find: There are several conceptual and methodological differences between cladistics and taxonomy that cause incongruence. One important conceptual difference is the use of different criteria for grouping: order of branching vs. similarity and difference (clades vs. taxa). Another is the policy regarding paraphyletic groups: to ban them in cladistics but ignore the ban in taxonomy. These two differences automatically lead to some incongruences. One approach is not right and the other wrong; each is operating by its own standards... ...More generally, the database in a molecular cladogram is, in itself, too narrow to serve as a foundation for an organismic classification. In cases of incongruence, the molecular evidence can be a reliable indicator of taxonomic relationships sometimes, misleading other times, and may afford no clear basis for a systematic decision.
  23. I can't tell if you're just patronizing me, or if you really want to hear the theory. In a nutshell, this is it: Penny and Groat were given dragon eggs by the Sealord of Braavos, who loved their act. (ADwD, Tyrion VIII: "We performed for the Sealord of Braavos once, and he laughed so hard that afterward he gave each of us a . . . a grand gift.") Groat either sold those eggs to Littlefinger's agents or he was killed by Littlefingers agents (Kettleblacks?) under the cover of Cersei's bounty on dwarf heads. The eggs were taken to be hatched and raised at the isolated but sheep-inhabited Baelish ancestral lands. Penny says that Groat handled all of the arrangements for their act, so she may have never seen the money paid for the eggs or, as I say, Groat may have been murdered and the eggs taken from him.
  24. I don’t think post-apocalyptic is quite accurate here. Sure Europe was a backwater for a few hundred years once the Roman Empire collapsed, but to call that apocalypse is hyperbole.
  25. Aww I would like to thank New Zealand for gifting the world Sam Neill's twitter account and also letting us add their best bird poll to the list of things Australia has stolen off them.
  26. I'm not sure what was more worrying, Cook going early or the sight of James Vince striding in at number 3. ETA - not too bad a first hour from an English perspective, but still plenty of work to do.
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