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  2. I think you're doing the same thing. (Of course we all do that to some extent.) For most of the season, Sansa is distant even from her own family, and she's even wearing "don't touch me" clothes, in stark contrast to her femme fatale (or, rather, "I went to Hot Topic before going to a Mittelalter festival"…) look before the Ramsay ordeal. But at the end of the last episode, once she's overcome Littlefinger, she's dressed like Maege Mormont's boss and hanging out casually with her sister. There's a huge change, which I think you've only missed because you were convinced by the rest of the season that S7 Sansa is endgame Sansa, and have reasoned backward from there. And really, reasoning backward is part of any objective look at the show. There are multiple ways things might turn out, and part of guessing which ones are most likely is reasoning backward from each one to see if they make sense. I can see a way that Sansa as a feudal Lord but also a mother makes sense. (That doesn't require her to fall in love, although, this being Hollywood, and the end of the story, it probably would.) I can also see a way that Sansa as an icy and impersonal queen makes sense. I can't see a way that Sansa becoming a dutiful wife or some lord in another realm makes sense. So, I think it's going to be one of the first two. You're right that people who want one particular ending—or who just expect one particular ending because they don't want to change the conclusion they jumped to—stop after finding out that their ending makes sense, without looking at the others. But I think you're one of those people. They're saying that #1 is possible and therefore it must be #1, you're saying that #2 is possible and therefore it must be #2, but in reality both #1 and #2 are possible, so we need to look for more clues to distinguish between them. Does it? Sansa has a half-brother who will only have a spare heir if he manages to have two sons, when even a first child is apparently a miracle. She's also got a sister who may well have no children, and a brother who probably can't have any. That's hardly a secure position to be in for the succession.
  3. It's a small island, i don't think you could even fit and feed an army of 10,000 on a campaign against it, much less 100,000. The battle at Pyke was probably not even the largest land battle happening during that particular month, given Stannis was subduing Great Wyk at the time with his soldiers, and Great Wyk is several times the size of Pyke with a similar climate and more known settlements. I also doubt that the Ironborn had much left in the way of soldiers at this point given how much of a complete massacre Fair Isle was. Maybe a few thousand light infantry spread throughout the islands, plus local garrisons. The only indication of the numbers involved in the Battle of Pyke is this from Jorah: So, probably not tens of thousands and definitely not hundreds of thousands.
  4. Speaking of wit, the following post in my thread with @Raisin' Bran cracked me up: Does that have some double meaning? Hope not, considering her reputation.
  5. The flashback was clearly meant to show the original creation of White Walkers by the Children, and the guy they used ended up being the Night King. Their invention backfired, leading to the near-extinction of both the Children and mankind. What possible purpose could there have been to creating White Walkers all over again 50 years ago? When the Children already knew how dangerous they are to Children, and they weren't actively at war with men anymore. And why was the ground un-winterfied? I was under the impression the White Walker creation ceremony we're shown was at the same tree at which Bran studied under the Raven guy. Even if it wasn't, what were Children doing south of the Wall 50 years ago, and how did the Night King get to the other side of the Wall? Nevermind all that. Why would the show trick us into believing we were being shown the original creation, when in fact we weren't? What would be the point? The showrunners are nasty people in your imagination.
  6. Promise me, Ned, to keep your lips tight so Robert's knives won't come in the night. Promise me, Ned, that he'll grow to be strong, but'll also be gentle and know right from wrong. Promise me, Ned, that he won't seem a fool. Let him know things and use his mind as a tool. Promise me, Ned, to grow a nice beard. Your clean-shaven face looks derpy and weird.
  7. It got a lot of attention in the NY Times and some other NYC pubs. Which is why I wanted to see it -- because of what they said. But we know the sorts who read the NY Times, and they are not the mass audience -- I guess? The trailers were also attractive. I don't think I count, as you say. I hardly ever, if ever, go to the sorts of box office hits. Mostly the small films, lots of indies, foreign films. And by now I hate going to theaters so much I prefer to wait and watch on dvd or streaming for almost anything. I saw Turner in a theater, for instance, because the subject is so much about visuals, and the theater actually did a good job of projection. So few do these days, but it is an 'art' house.
  8. I disagree - because communication has to start somewhere, especially in polarized situations like that. That two minutes talking time was two minutes more than BLM received at a Trump rally before. Perfect? No. Flawed? Yes. Its a tiny, fumbling step towards sanity. I see that as better by far than a half-assed civil war that won't solve anything. Roughly a third of the US are conservative leaning republicans. Another third are arguably 'liberal,' if you stretch the terms enough. The 'other side' does not go away. Learn to accommodate each other somehow or BOTH sides face complete catastrophe. No exaggeration.
  9. It's not my theory, but Radio Westeros, that fake Arya will go to the House of Black and White, where Arya will see her, where she may find out that Jon was murdered which will prompt Arya to return to Westeros. I can't think of anything in Essos that would cause her to head back to Westeros other than the news about Jon or Nymeria running into Uncat and recognizing her while Arya is warging her. As far as Stannis goes, I believe he wins the battle, but it leaves him bad shape, that he ends up at the Nightfort where he has one last tryst with Mel and ends up dying. I don't think we have time for the Night King angle, so I think he just bites it while helping to birth something horrible. Does Shireen burn? Maybe before Stannis gets to the Wall if Mel believes the letter, remember she's not been able to find Stannis in her visions so she might believe he is dead at some point and burn Shireen trying to bring him back.
  10. About time. Great 3 years at the Bridge but he finally burned it down. I'll appreciate all the goals and tenacity, but happy the headache is gone. Sick of him speculating about what team he wants to play for next seaon when he's in the midst of a title run. He seems like a fun guy to play with but has to be a pain in the ass to coach. From his perspective, he better get his ass in shape. He got dropped from the international squad for Villa the last time around. I'd imagine that was a wake up call.
  11. you mean this (first 40 s)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec2blDrHUlg Also Bronn said Jaime would fuck her and teases him for liking only very blond women.
  12. What life did Cersei want? To be married to her brother? I know, she wanted a husband who wasn't a drunk who sired cities-full of bastards. But thems the breaks. Why is "MUST" only a bad word for female characters and their life choices? Arya, who made little sense last season, made perhaps least sense of all when she went on to Sansa (in the same scene where she implicitly threatened to cut off Sansa's face) about how girls don't get to choose what they want to be. Uh, hello. Boys in Westeros don't, either. More than girls, admittedly. But boys have family obligations, too. Like the obligation to go off and die in war. If they're not up to that, they're Sam Tarly, the pariah. Male obligations don't end at the battlefield, but extend into marriage and baby-making, as well. Robb was penned in by duty. He doomed the family (if it wasn't doomed already) by selfishly choosing to marry for love instead of marrying one of the Frey girls. Sansa, whether she likes it or not, bears the responsibility of carrying on the Stark blood, given Robb and Rickon (who actually existed, by the way) are dead and Bran is a tree or a bird or whatever. Arya may be a lost cause and Jon is a Targaryen. Why shouldn't she feel that burden? Wouldn't it be a good thing for her to feel obligated to poor dead Ned to keep on Starking, rather than fulfill her selfish desire like that paragon of virtue, Cersei Lannister?
  13. Don't be jealous.
  14. I agree. Not just better than I expected, but even better than I'd hoped. I haven't liked many of the changes to Cersei's and Jaime's arcs that the show has made, but the endpoint of their story was perfect.
  15. Well, then who's left to rule Winterfell when Sansa dies? We don't know how many children Jon and Daenerys can have, don't know how Arya feels about marrying, while Bran's the Three Eyed Raven and he was already suspect since he got paralyzed and he pushed away the only girl he's been around who wasn't his sister. The Northern lords will only accept a Stark. There must always be a Stark in Winterfell, and we're running out of Starks.
  16. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/21/16344792/obamacare-repeal-graham-cassidy-senate-byrd-rule Graham-Cassidy needs to pass this final test before it can come to a vote Experts say the new Obamacare repeal bill might succeed where previous versions failed.
  17. Resident Wit indeed
  18. I think I'd agree with your assessment of the show. It did feel a bit rushed, it's a detective story in which the clues just fall into the detectives lap, I don't think that's a fatal flaw since the mystery wasn't really the main point of the story but I agree it might have worked better a 90 minute story.
  19. TV Sansa definitely doesn't want to remarry and would much rather run Winterfell unimpeded; in Season 7, it's strongly implied that she would much rather run Winterfell with Jon out of the way and is even briefly tempted by the prospect of a coup. And if her desire for power and control means that she secretly wishes she were rid of Jon of all people, who has only ever tried to protect and defend her, whom she unquestionably loves, and whom she considers further from Joffrey than anyone she has ever met, what shot does anyone else have? It doesn't have to, but in Sansa's case, it obviously does. I'm guessing the writers are working backwards from Book Sansa's endgame--steely, single Elizabeth I-style Lady of Winterfell--and using the Ramsay marriage and everything that went with it to explain her attitude. Gross, sure, but not beyond D&D. Arya sailing into the sunset would be a perfect ending, I think. You're assuming that Sansa will fall in love and get married at some point in the future and reasoning backwards from there, and it's terrible reasoning. There's nothing in the show to suggest that Sansa is going to fall in love or has any interest in remarrying at all. In fact, Season 7 suggests quite the opposite, that Sansa is increasingly interested in running things herself and hates the idea of anyone, even someone kind and decent who loves her, getting in the way. Season 7 is also setting up characters' endgames: Sansa as the endgame LOW who rules by herself without male interference is looking like a lock. Well, no. I pay attention to the show and don't try to second-guess characters when they make their opinions and attitudes clear. And Tyrion has never said to himself that he's done with prostitutes and with women in general because Shae fucked him up real good, and Sansa has never said to herself that she's never going to let a man be in a position to control her ever again if she can help it. We know it, though, just as we know that Arya's not into romance and marriage. How? By watching the show and paying attention to what the characters actually say and do, instead of projecting fantasies on to them about how they should be acting and feeling. I think your problem is that you're not watching the show, you're watching the version of the show you want to see--based on what you think will happen and reasoning backwards from there--and ignoring what's actually going on. That way lies guaranteed disappointment, as the great Jonsa Shipper Meltdown of 2017 showed. The show is what it is. The characters and their relationships are what they are. If you don't like it? For everything else, there's fanfic. Season 7 Sansa doesn't want a man to assist her. She doesn't want a man in the picture at all, even a strong, kind man like Jon who would never hurt her, because said man can override her, refuse to listen to her, and make a botch of things. Given her experiences, that is an entirely sensible attitude. You're reasoning backwards: when Sansa falls in love and gets married, she'll decide to produce an heir, blah blah blah. All indications are that Sansa is never going to get there due to her traumatic experiences and the lessons she has learned, and she will actively resist any attempts to force her into that corner. (Not that Jon or Dany would press the point.) Not under the circumstances. As I said, the Elizabeth I/James I solution works just fine. If you can't make your point without making personal attacks, maybe cool down and try again later.
  20. Ah but are words not merely wind? Or is it only spoken words that are wind, lost into the ether as soon as they are released? Here's a philosophical question: if words are wind, is a name mere wind? Does my board name qualify more as wind than my real life name? If so, why? In a previous game I used the theme characters who spoke words are wind on page. I expect an essay from each of you on my obsession with this saying. You can thank @rocksniffer for this joyous extracurricular activity I may or may not put you out of your misery on whether I have hidden hints to this theme (I may or may not have hidden hints to future themes). But not yet. Not yet. Carry on! Ride your wooden horses over the poison water, as the Dothraki would say.
  21. Surely that depends on exactly how he'd rule? I mean, sure, if he burned the Great Sept of Balor and demanded that all must convert to the Lord of Light then, yes, they'll rebel but if he rules fairly and makes sure that everyone has enough to eat then surely only the biggest zealots would actually care? Most would go "Well, he's better than Tommen, that abomination". The Old Gods and the Seven seem to have been able to co-exist for centuries. The Riverlords and House Manderly had no problem accepting Robb as their King, despite their religious beliefs. Besides, Stannis doesn't even believe in the Lord of Light. He believes in Melisandre's power and wants to use it to do what needs to be done. If he was going to force people to convert then he wouldn't have made Davos his Hand. That's another thing actually. I realise he did it because he values honest counsel more than high birth but making Davos the Hand of The King should surely do a lot to win the smallfolk over? How can they hate someone who has taken one of their own, a common smuggler from Flea Bottom, recognised his worth and raised him to the highest position that he could?
  22. I hadn't thought about that part. Maybe all three?
  23. I watched The Hood Maker, the first episode of the Philip K. Dick's Electric Dreams anthology. I thought it was a good piece of dystopian SF, although there's a limit to how complex a story they can tell in an hour so there weren't any big surprises. It couldn't help but be a bit reminiscent of Blade Runner and Minority Report at times, but I guess if any series is allowed to then this should be. I did like the way they portrayed the telepaths, the first interrogation Honor does was a particularly good scene. I thought Holliday Grainger was very good as Honor, Richard Madden also put in a solid performance.
  24. Cersei and Victarion (Euron)
  25. You mean by Westerosi society, by the viewers/readers, or by D&D/GRRM? If you mean the first one, that's kind of the point. Sansa deciding that she's the same as Jon Arryn, even if her society doesn't see it that way—and she didn't as a little girl—would be a fulfillment of her character growth.
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