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    Why weren’t Robert’s brothers princes

    Robb's siblings were children, so it could make sense to think of them being termed princes as courtesy titles. Stannis and Renly wouldn't have needed courtesy titles, because they were made lords in their own right.
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    How could we find out about Aegon

    Jon Con can't be the source of the truth, as he doesn't know it. He absolutely believes YG is Aegon, so we can be sure he has only raised one boy as Aegon but he was with the Golden Company for a time after his exile, and it is possible he was given a fake. The two possible sources for the truth are Varys and Illyrio. If real Aegon was saved then Varys arranged it, if a fake was procured then Illyrio arranged that. I think Varys is less likely to be the source of the truth. I don't fully understand his motivations, but he lives in Westeros so I think he must be more fully invested in the ploy of getting Aegon on the throne, so is more likely to maintain the narrative of Aegon as Rhaegar's son, regardless of the truth. I don't put much weight into Varys telling Kevan about Aegon because that is true regardless of the kid's provenance. It is absolutely true that Kevan's House and legacy are threatened by the advancing army headed by someone with the name Aegon . Illyrio is I think a more likely source of the truth, he is less invested in the plot to win the throne for Aegon than he is in the boy himself. I would suggest that if we learn more from Illyrio of his love for Serra we will learn the truth of Aegon. I think Serra and Aegon must be linked, because they are the only two for whom Illyrio shows love and affection. I do not think Illyrio is the boys father, as why would he give up a son he loves for a throne he cares little for? - the boy must have belonged to Varys' plot before Illyrio developed affection for him. That brings me to my theory that after the original Aegon's death by Gregor, Varys decided to create a fake Aegon and needed to procure a child of the right age and looks. So Illyrio purchased a mother-and-baby/toddler slave set. Aegon is a convincing fake because rather than just picking a random child they went to the trouble of making sure that he had inherited his mother Serra's Targaryen-like features.
  3. Saving his own skin is the key to his motivations, I am sure. It is generally assumed that Renly decided to become King and called his banners, in that order. I am not so sure, I think originally he gathered his army to protect himself, perhaps with the aim of deposing the Lannisters as regent to Joffrey or one of his younger siblings. I think he only decided to crown himself after he saw the size of the army that he had gathered and let that go to his head; it is essentially the argument he made to Catelyn, doesn't the person who can command such a mighty force deserve to be king.
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    A middle lane view of Rhaegar and Elia

    One possibility I consider is that Rhaegar didn't already have two children; that Elia in her frailty ended her second pregnancy with a stillbirth, and at Dragonstone swapped babes with Ashara's healthy bastard baby. Rhaegar finding this out would have been the impetus for him to run away with Lyanna then, rather than soon after Harrenhal when he first noticed her.
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    If Robb had declared for Stannis, what would have changed?

    I reject the premise that backing Stannis was an honourable choice for Robb to make whilst he was at Riverrun. Robb did not at that time know that Stannis intended to press a claim to throne, Cat only learnt that Stannis was claiming the throne, and of the incest, when she was in Renly's camp. That was after Robb would have already have moved west. (Recall, Stannis sent his ravens in the prologue of ACoK, after he had already received a letter announcing Robb's crowning which happened late AGoT). Regardless, if the timings had been different I am not sure the military strategy would have played out very differently. Let's suppose that Stannis had sent his proclamations earlier, and that letter arrived at Riverrun before word of Ned's death. Robb would have declared for Stannis, but been too far away from Stannis for immediate conference so would still have been acting as an independent military commander. His logic for moving west would still have been the same, to engage against the Lannisters without falling into the trap of facing Tywins forces at Harrenhal. In the books as they are Tywin was between two enemies in Robb and Renly's and has to choose who to engage first, that would not have been changed if Stannis and Robb had been formally allied. It is possible that if Stannis and Robb had been corresponding then Stannis would have delayed his attack on KL until after Tywin was trapped in the west, but as they would have been sending ravens across great distances they might still have not gotten the timing correct - Robb and Edmure were allied and there was still misunderstanding between the two of them.
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    Small Questions v. 10105

    Regarding Luwin, I have always thought Cat spoke inaccurately because that is how people speak. Her point was that nakedness does not matter because he has seen her in childbirth. Ned, Cat and Luwin all know their own history and would be aware of where Cat had given birth, but saying 'helped give birth to four of my five children' is a bit of a mouthful, saying 'all my children' is simpler and if it is incorrect because Luwin began serving them sometime before Sansa's birth then it would be a pointless sidetrack to the conversation for anybody to clarify her comment.
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