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  1. On 3/1/2023 at 3:50 PM, Zorral said:

    ‘Dune: The Sisterhood’: Director Johan Renck & Star Shirley Henderson Exit HBO Max Series Amid Creative Overhaul & Production Hiatus

    https://deadline.com/2023/02/dune-the-sisterhood-director-johan-renck-shirley-henderson-exit-hbo-max-series-1235273486/

    I'm sure they're perfectly nice, perfectly competent people. However,

    If the guy you're having creative differences with is named "Denis Villeneuve", you're wrong!

    That's like, the first thing they teach you on day one of film school.  

  2. On 3/10/2023 at 8:53 AM, Cas Stark said:

    Again, no.  They were not physically hounded by the paparazzi in the UK.  It didn't happen and it does not happen and has not happened since Diana died. 

    Don't worry. The actual extent of press intrusion and illegal news gathering relating to Prince harry is about to be decided in court. 

  3. On 3/10/2023 at 5:55 AM, DMC said:

    Maybe, just maybe, the Sussexes safety concerns had more to do with the British paparazzi which is always going to hound them incessantly in London but is far easier to mitigate when you're neighbors with Oprah?  I mean, I dunno, crazy thought, but maybe that was Harry's predominate safety concern considering the role they played in his mother's death.

    Or that their position as working royals required them to make public appearances in a country where the non-stop tabloid narrative was making said public increasingly hostile to them? How about the mental toll this was taking on both of them?

    A few people involved with their security over the years have commented on this publicly. And there's a big difference between getting pap'd coming out of a restaurant and what she went through in Toronto, for example. 

    One anecdote from Spare that infuriated me was that they had to give up one of her dogs when she left Toronto. A consequence of the neighborhood disruption caused by the press was that he started going into guard-dog mode whenever he was with Meghan and started getting aggressive with people. That's just wrong. 

    Not to mention that she was contemplating suicide at one point; Piers Morgan's skepticism notwithstanding. 

  4. 24 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

    But is it safer than the parts of London where they lived? Other than noncing, there isn't a lot of crime at Buck Palace I would imagine. 

    If you ignore the rampant buggery and child sacrifices, yeah it's practically crime free. After all, what happens in Buckingham Palace stays in Buckingham palace.  

    But it's irrelevant. They're out. They left England. They had to go somewhere and it seems they didn't have many options. 

  5. 11 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

    It's objective truth that the UK is safer than the US, so I'm not sure how that is a rationalization.  I'm not sure what you mean by 'not even close to their first choice'.  I never expected them to end up anywhere other than CA .  If you think that they were really ever going to end up in Africa or New Zealand, I've got a bridge to sell you. 

    You know what I find interesting? When it comes to Prince Andrew; about whom there are credible allegations of participation in the sexual exploitation of a minor, who herself was the victim of an alleged conspiracy involving sex slavery and human trafficking; call him a, "pedophile" and there are (multiple) calls for restraint and precision in the language we use.

    When it comes to the Sussexes, every distortion, every exaggeration, every bloody tedious non-sequitur gets embraced, enthusiastically.

    Only an observation, not a judgment.

    Do I really need to bring up that average crime rates in the United States (a big ass country) are irrelevant because 99.9% of the United States is a place where these two don't live?** That crime rates in Santa Barbara county are significantly lower than London, England? Or that the concerns this family have for their physical safety and well being, while not being any more or less legitimate, are different from those of the general public? Really?

    And it doesn't matter how plausible you think Africa, Canada, or NZ were for relocation destinations. Their first choice, one of the choices on offer (only to be withdrawn) was half-in-half-out, in one of those places.

    ** I live in a similarly big ass country, There are two smallish cities, one where I was born and one about 70km from my current location. These places regularly trade the top spot for, "most violent city in this big ass country". Do I have a death wish? Do I cower in fear? Fuck no. Because I don't fucking live there. 

  6. 13 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

    The idea that Harry and Meghan are safer in gun crazy America with private security rather than living inside the Windsor security bubble and all that entails seems wrong.  Almost as if 'safety' had nothing to do with why they left. 

    Meg and Harry have been deeply destructive for the monarchy, making it doubly ironic how much they love being titled aristocrats.  

    Yup. I'm sure those are the kind of rationalizations the commentariat already has primed and ready for such an eventuality. "C'mon. how much did they care about safety, really?" I can already hear the words coming out of Piers Morgan's idiotic face. Never mind that literally everything you just described was not even close to their first choice.  

    For the anti-monarchists and critics of the British media, the reaction will be a be a thing of beauty. 

     

  7. 9 hours ago, Heartofice said:

    That’s effectively what they have done yes. 

    That would be a "no" then. 

    2 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

    Where ya been?  I guess technically you can never leave your family and technically all Harry has done is slam his family and everyone who works for them for the last 3 years and all of the protocols around how the institution works, but has never officially renounced his place in this terrible institution that damaged him and his wife.  One might be forgiven for thinking that when he fled England for the 'safety of his family' that he might formally renounce all those things that caused such pain.  

    You trivialize "the safety of his family". Fine.

    I'll tell you this: I was around when Lady Di passed away. I remember, going by the tabloids, public opinion of her wasn't great after she divorced Charles. After she died, I remember the immense, maybe overblown, outpouring of grief. I also remember the backlash against the royal family and elements of the UK tabloid press. There were even a few republican-minded Brits who speculated the whole affair could bring down the monarchy. I think they were only half joking. 

    All the years of insane "reporting" by the English tabloids; all the distortions; the gaslighting; suppose that inspires some Meghan-hating royalist to take a run at that family. Suppose, god forbid, something happens to one of those kids.

    In an era when the commonwealth is looking shaky and republican sentiment in the UK is ticking up; the Royal Family, the protocols, the tradition, all this bullshit that these people claim to care about? It's over. Done. The whole fucking show comes to an end, and right quick.

    Of course, they'll still blame Meghan for it. 

  8. 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said:

    I have to say, using the Royal titles is an insane PR blunder. Wtf were they thinking? It plays into every criticism that the royalists have of them. 

    I really hope Morgan has a full on hissy fit meltdown during the court case, tears, snot running down his face the lot. 

    Only if you buy into the narrative that they're extorting the king and they hate the monarchy blah blah. Nothing they will ever do will satisfy those people. For example: see the conflicting avocado narratives or the one genius who compared Spare to Mien Kampf.

    Yeah, Morgan can screw himself. His Levinson Inquiry testimony was truly disgusting. Not to mention some of his other behaviors. If he wasn't a journo he'd probably have half a dozen restraining orders against him.  

    ETA: on a different note, anyone notice that the baptism was only reported after the fact? Yeah, they knew Tyler Perry visited them because he was spotted at the airport and seen driving to their place. But like, none of the English tabloids scooped this or even had any awareness it was happening. Isn't it amazing what they don't know now that they have no access? 

  9. 1 hour ago, Spockydog said:

    Oooooooh, been waiting years for this.

    Considering what happened to Rebekah Brooks, Morgan should have been jailed. It was his Daily Mirror who pioneered the practice of phone hacking. I guess he's got some very good blackmail material.

    Regarding the various lawsuits Harry's involved in with the English tabloids, if it comes out that certain so-and-so's perjured themselves at the Levinson inquiry, yeah, they could be in serious trouble.

  10. 25 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

    Of course they can not use the tiles, come on.  Princess Anne didn't give her children any titles, that is why Zara Tindell isn't Lady Zara, just Zara.  The Wessex children also don't use their titles but I believe they've been given the choice to decide to use or not use when they're of age.

     So, it is 100% clear that they can not call their American children Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet Diana.

    Princess Anne's children weren't grandchildren of the monarch through the male line

    When the Wessexes married, QE2 issued a statement that their children would not be styled "Prince" or "Princess". Neither QE2 or KC have issued any such statement regarding the Sussexes. The 1917 LP stands. 

    ETA: they are still HRH's, until they turn 18 when they can give them up. 

  11. 9 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

    ETA, also a story today about Lilibet's christening.  They intend to use the Prince and Princess titles for the children.  The titles from the evil racist family that is so terrible to them.  I guess the Guardian was right here--Harry's issue isn't with privilege, only that he does't have as  much of it as he believes he deserves.  

     

    5 hours ago, Heartofice said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64890702

    Oh I was just posting up about that Princess Lilibet story.

    You know all those royal correspondents and Tabloid types that like to drone on about "Royal Protocol"? In the immortal words of Tony Soprano, "If you can quote the rules, you can fucking obey them.

    The law in Britain that determines who is gets the title "Prince" or "Princess" comes from the King George V's Letter Patent of November 1917.  The text can be read here.

    Until King Charles issues a new LP, this is the law. I've read through this a number of times and I can't find any consideration for the wishes of the parents of the Monarch's grandchildren or conditions on whether or not the parents of the Monarch's grandchildren are working royals. In other words, it isn't clear H+M could deny the titles or the styles to their kids even if they wanted to. 

    Maybe that's why psychotic H+M haters on twitter are claiming Archie and Lili aren't really KC's grandkids. 

  12. 4 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

    Meghan did an interview with Variety at the end of October.  Their six hour Netflix show premiered in December? And her interview with the Cut was in August.  Her podcast ended in November I think?   That isn't exactly a low profile over the last 6 months.  Harry just did an interview this week.

    Is that it? The accusation was "Parading on US media 24/7". According to my calculations, last August is more than 6 months ago. Last October was just about 6 months ago. Shock horror, she had a podcast? 

    Compare that to the endless UK media tabloid garbage, various  "royal correspondents", Jeremy Clarkson, Piers Morgan, Dan Wooton, Samantha Markle, etc.; who's doing the "parading" here?  

     

  13. 59 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

    Again, I'd really love to see the approval numbers in an alternate universe if you kept everything the same about what the Sussexes were discussing except that Harry was instead married to Megan Thee Stallion.

    They'd have totally been down with it. For sure.

    17 hours ago, IheartIheartTesla said:

    Would I rather be an OG racist, or a clueless naif who probably knew about the OG racists-in-law but went ahead with the marriage anyway. What a tough question to ponder.

    Let's not forget that, as far as grievances go, they are overwhelmingly directed at the UK press; not the family. Something that the UK press conveniently and consistently ignores.   

  14. 14 hours ago, Heartofice said:

    Seems the worldwide 'Pity Parade' tour and endless 'We want our privacy' interviews and media work has had pretty much the exact opposite effect Meghan and Harry were hoping for. They are now polling below Prince Andrew in the popularity stakes. Ouch!

    How is brand Harry and Meghan faring in the US? News just in: not good

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    Polls also reflect a shift in US-based attitudes towards the pair: their approval ratings have plummeted since the South Park episode. According to pollingcommissioned for Newsweek, Harry’s popularity has dropped 48 points since December and Meghan’s is down 40. Now Prince Andrew, the guy who palled around with a convicted sex offender, has higher US approval ratings than the Sussexes. Though, to be fair, that seems to be because fewer people in the US know about Andrew’s tawdry dealings than they do in the UK. Because Andrew isn’t parading himself on the US media 24/7 like Harry and Meghan, it’s easier for someone stateside to forget who he is. If only we all had that luxury.

    Right. When was the last time MM actually sat down for an interview or gave a statement to anyone regarding the royals or anything else? The Oprah interview was almost 2 years ago. It seems to me that she hasn't been doing any actual "parading" for quite some time. You can even find all sorts of clips of the sad little man and Priers Morgan asking, "Where's Meghan?" Actually, not asking; more screaming like children. 

    As for Harry, after the initial burst media appearances promoting his book, he's not done much either. 7 weeks at #1 on the NYT best seller list BTW. She doesn't mention that. 

    And by all means, let Andrew do some more parading. I'd love to hear more about his sweat glands. 

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    How are Harry and Meghan responding to this seeming shift in attitudes? Well, let’s just say they haven’t exactly put out a statement saying they think Rock and South Park are hilarious and they love nothing more than laughing at themselves, ha ha ha. On the contrary, there were rumours that they were so upset by the South Park episode that they were considering legal action. While they’re certainly fans of calling their lawyers, a representative for the couple told the Guardian that reports the pair might sue were “baseless” and “boring”.

    Hold on; in the previous paragraph the author said their problem is they're overexposed, now she's saying they needed to put out a statement in response to South Park? Fuck me the Brits are weird.

    As for the "rumor", since when are they responsible for the bullshit the UK press makes up about them?

    15 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

    *OG inbred racists. Get your facts straight. 

    Yeah let's face it, if Harry had married one of his cousins the British royalists would have had no problem with that. It speaks volumes that an alleged royal pedophile has a higher approval rating in the UK than the Sussexes do. It's a silly place and they're well rid of it. 

  15. 15 hours ago, Heartofice said:

    So when Chris Rock isn't giving Will Smith a metaphorical slap in his new comedy special he also had time to lay into SMeghan Markle.

    https://nypost.com/2023/03/05/chris-rock-brilliantly-rips-into-will-smith-and-meghan-markle/

    "The comic nimbly eviscerated Prince Harry’s wife’s never-ending outrage over the British royals’ alleged racist tendencies.

    The phrasing is interesting here. 

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    “It’s the royal family!,” he said. “You didn’t Google these motherf—ers? What the f–k is she talking about ‘she didn’t know’?!” 

    He went on: “That’s like marrying into the Budweiser family and going, ‘They drink a lot.’”

    He follows this up with, "She didn’t know? It’s the royal family! They’re the original racists!"... conveniently  out of the NY post review. 

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