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  1. 7 hours ago, polishgenius said:

    What they said,

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    Sometimes, too, the adherence to Star Wars past grates. Parts of the first half hour feel like a remix, from the plans hidden in a small, feisty droid to the rescue of a tortured but still witty prisoner from an evil authoritarian regime. It’s all beautifully crafted, just a little too deferential to what has gone before. But then the new characters take shape and new elements emerge. By the end, this finds fresh ingredients to add to the Star Wars formula, strengthening and deepening it. The prequels this ain’t. We can all breathe again.

    Huh, "a little too deferential". How about that?

    7 hours ago, polishgenius said:

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    And if Episode 7 is almost too slavishly reverential, it’s every sub-plot mirroring or reversing those that have gone before, and its nods and winks so plentiful as to border on the distracting, it is better this than to repeat Lucas’ prequel mistakes.

    Hmm, "border on distracting"... At least we don't have to deal with that "Lucas" fella.  

    7 hours ago, polishgenius said:

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    Lucas' prequels balanced light with gathering darkness, and rhymed scenes, situations and shots with the original trilogy's, to create a sense of history repeating and inverting itself. Abrams and company have done something similar in “The Force Awakens,” but at the level of characterization and scene-building. This is a subtler way to revise (or recycle) elements in a popular franchise while finding something new in them, and it explains why this film feels more fully realized than any "Star Wars" movie since "The Empire Strikes Back"—it's certainly warmer than the prequels, which often failed at characterization and plot even as they served up intricate sequences and haunting images. 

    Tsk. That Lucas guy agin. 

    7 hours ago, polishgenius said:

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    Paywall. Don't know what they said. 

    What I said,

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    Is it derivative? Holy shit, yes. Forget about the fact that it isn't an original IP, in terms of character and story beats, it's a close as you could get to a remake of SW:ANH without actually calling it a "remake".

    See the difference? Think I'm being too harsh? I can go to the video evidence if you like. And is it churlish of me to mention that none of those reviews use the dreaded "D-word"?

    To recap, as I scan the comments on this thread, it's been implied that, I'm conspiratorial, I have a "chip on my shoulder", I just haven't been paying attention, I'm a thirsty horse, and that I think people who disagree with me are shitty at their jobs. Well, that last part might be kind of true. :D

    If I decide to respond further it'll have to be tomorrow because its been a long day and you fine people only get so much of my time. 

     

  2. 53 minutes ago, polishgenius said:

     

    The person who made the claim about Force Awakens reviews was you.


    Go on, support it. 

    Fine. I'll start combing through the negative reviews if they go after the positive ones. Shouldn't take too long. 

  3. 39 minutes ago, Raja said:

    Not here to do your homework for you, thanks, especially when you have clearly chosen an example that doesn't stand up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

    Your homework. Not mine. You made the claim. you can support it. 

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    You have clearly not paid *any* attention to the critical reaction to TFA, or bothered to read about it, if you had, you would have seen that one of the main criticism of the movie was what you said, and it was brought up in multiple reviews - like Argonath stated. 

    And now you're being deliberately obtuse, which is totally fine but maybe at some point you will realize that there is more than one way to say the same thing, and a lot of those reviews highlighted exactly what you did but you've chosen to ignore them.

    Correct, there are different ways to say the same thing. "Derivative" is used as a pejorative. There are certainly nicer ways to dress that up. 

     

  4. 19 hours ago, Raja said:

    I mean, you can include it, it doesn't detract from the overall point that I made at all :)

    Edit: It is weird to me that you say that when so much of the critical conversation around TFA *was* exactly what you state above. These articles aren't hard to find.

    I acknowledge in that sentence that there are probably a few that actually use the word, "derivative". So yes, it does. 

    The articles aren't hard to find? OK, find them. the ones that use the word, "derivative", as a criticism. 

  5. 1 hour ago, sifth said:

    I got 4 or 5 of those Pfizer shots............sorry, starting to lose track at this point, it's been a long pandemic. Long story short, I got them and nearly my entire family got them and we're all in great health. Heck I run 9 miles most days. Levi sounds like a crazy person.

    I got a smorgasbord of shots over the last year and a half. AZ, Moderna, Pfizer; I tasted them all. The night terrors are almost over and pretty soon my asshole will stop talking back. 

    43 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said:

    Tactic to get the anti-vaxxer to go see his movie?

    So, 10% of CBM movie fans? A month after seeing the movie: 8.5%?  That there's a recipe for box office gold!

  6. The Banshees of Inisherin

    Solid. Great performances. Funny. Dark in places. Beautiful to look at. Recommend.

    I'd have to say I liked this film more than I loved it. Same for 3 Billboards, McDonagh's previous film. I can see how these films get the raves they do but they just don't click with me to the same degree.

    I'll probably give it rewatch sometime.  

  7. 3 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

    It passed $2B and still going.  Oh, and apparently they are rereleasing Titanic for valentines day in select theaters.

    https://deadline.com/2023/01/avatar-the-way-of-water-overtakes-star-wars-force-awakens-global-box-office-james-cameron-1235243382/

     

    According to the-numbers, weekend estimates place its w.w. total at just over $2.1 billion and $620 domestic. It's still losing ground to TG: Maverick, but it still leads it by about $20 million. $700 million domestic is still within reach. I could see it getting a bit of a bump if it's still playing on enough screens during spring break.  

  8. 3 hours ago, Raja said:

    I mean, that depends on how you define the behaviour of a fan. You can be a fan and still have legit criticisms of films. I think it is naive to think critics don't  bring their own perspective, biases and experiences to their criticism - there isn't an 'objective' review, just different perspectives. Critics aren't a monolith, and Avatar 2 has received plenty of praise from them ( and plenty of criticism)

    We're having two different debates here now though - Your assertion that previous Disney films have had had a free pass critically is just wrong though, and there are *so* many examples.

    I know there's some pretty boring, mediocre stuff that scores higher on the coveted tomato meter.

    As I made clear in an earlier post, the specific criticism of, "derivative", "no story", "no characters" that I have a problem with. Take SW:TFA; this is film I enjoyed a lot; this is a film I'd probably watch again. Is it derivative? Holy shit, yes. Forget about the fact that it isn't an original IP, in terms of character and story beats, it's a close as you could get to a remake of SW:ANH without actually calling it a "remake". How many critics used the word "derivative" in their reviews of that film? I'm guessing only few. 

  9. 27 minutes ago, polishgenius said:

    As it happens, I think BR2049 holds up, though I need to see the full thing again soon, but I really hate the idea of 'it has to be seen in a theatre'. Sure, some films do benefit from it and always will, but your film can't hold up without the loudest possible volume and biggest image to give your viewer sensory overload, you haven't made it properly. 

    Wrong, you wrong, wrong man. 

    The scenes that are most striking to on the big screen are things like the opening, where he's flying over the farmers fields that on second look turn out to be structures. Or Ryan Gosling, alone,  moving very slowly through the bowels of the wrecked ship, or the interiors of the Tyrell pyramid.

    For me, they just don't have the same tension without the kind of immersive quality one gets in a cinema. Have I mentioned that I like to sit much closer to the screen than most people?

    I'm thinking of seeing Cocaine Bear in IMAX... 

  10. 3 hours ago, Raja said:

    Agreed. There's this notion in a lot of these movie threads that critics aren't fans and are bought and paid for, shock horror critics are people that have varied opinions just like people on this board. There isn't some grand conspiracy and fans need to get rid of this weird chip on their shoulder, it's just very very odd

    Randos on the web talking about films is fine. I'm sure critics get caught up in trends like anyone else. But If professional critics behaving like fans then they aren't really doing film criticism area they? And I never suggested anything about about a "grand conspiracy".

  11. 5 hours ago, Luzifer's right hand said:

    Rewatched Blade Runner 2049 and it has grown a lot on me(might be because I love Dune). The only bad thing is Harrison Ford who should have stopped acting at some point I feel.

    BR 2049 is a perfect example of why some films absolutely need to be seen in a theater. It just isn't the same on TV. I hope they re-release it someday. 

  12. 1 hour ago, Myrddin said:

    No one will ever trust Cameron to make another film. 

    He didn't even accept notes! That guy needs an attitude adjustment.

    I'm guessing there's a reason he's literally producing these films in a bubble city on the other side of the world. 'Makes it hard for studio executives to just "pop in". 

    Oh, Bob Eiger want's to see me?  He can get his ass on a plane then. From L.A. it's only a thirteen hour flight. Enough time to watch three of the highest grossing films of all time!!

  13. At the end of its 6 week, A:TWoW has overtaken The Force Awakens at the world wide box office. 

    Domestically, it's definitely slowing down but its still got some energy. It will overtake Incredibles 2 this weekend. The Last Jedi will probably get demoted next week.   

  14. 9 hours ago, Heartofice said:

    Hahah, keep reaching mate. Did he also get the TV Guide readers choice award? Dog lovers weekly nomination for director of the year?

    I reach for nothing. That Aussie award is prestigious as hell. and if I had that and the AARP award on my shelf? They could take that little gold statue and stick in their bum. 

  15. 1 hour ago, Argonath Diver said:

    Braveheart was released when I was 14. I didn't see it in the theaters, but my buddies and I of course got the VHS and watched it a bunch. I was generally sheltered from violent movies as a kid (but not nudity, my dad was an artist and lived years in Paris and we had a very different viewpoint on mature themes than the standard Midwest American nuclear family).

    I remember being teased for turning and wincing during the intense battle violence and especially the final torture scene.  But I also had a colossal crush on Sophie Marceau in that film. I watched it too many times in my late teens and I honestly don't think I've watched it start to finish for twenty years. I should revisit it. I am not as worried about the inaccuracies as some, and damn if it isn't one of the best sword and sandal style epics in the last forty or so years.

    You weren't the only one, believe me. Like I said, no one had done battle scenes like that before. Gibson was smart to make the torture scene bloodless and let the audiences imagination fill it all in. 

    If only he'd shown the same restraint when it came to the torture scene (film) in one of his subsequent films...

  16. On 1/26/2023 at 3:02 PM, Heartofice said:

    I notice Baz didn’t get a directing Oscar or BAFTA nom.. hmmmmmm

    Baz  Luhrmann Best director awards for Elvis:

    Critics Choice Awards: Nominated

    Golden Globes: Nominated

    Hollywood Critics Association: Nominated

    AARP Movies for Grownups Awards: Pending (Respect!)

    And the much more illustrious Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts Awards, which he won. Australians are of course 10% cooler than anyone else.

    He'll also get an AFI 10 best of 2022 award. 

  17. On 1/26/2023 at 10:36 AM, Spockydog said:

    Speaking of great fucking movies, we watched Braveheart last night after haggis for dinner. 

    What a movie. I don't care about the historical inaccuracies, Gibson told a fantastic story. The script, the acting, the battle scenes. And that beautiful score. Wow. 

    Easy to see why it won Best Picture at the Oscars. 

    I saw Braveheart on the big screen back in the day. We went to the pub afterward and drank McEwan's. My friend, who's last name is English as fuck and who's probably 1/32nd Scottish, walked out of the theater with all kinds of good feels. As you said, great movie all around.

    My feelings toward it may have soured over the years, mostly because of the historical inaccuracies. But yeah, that was something else.  It can certainly be credited with brief resurgence of sword and sandals movies in the decade after it. No one had ever done battle scenes like that. 

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