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  1. I can appreciate valid criticism, but there's no in hell way that episode was a "1". The fact that there are so many "1" votes tells you all you need to know.
  2. Low ratings and too expensive to produce. The original plan was for something like 5 seasons that would ultimately take us to Palestine and feature the beginning of Christianity. They found out late that they had to wrap things up so they compressed the last half of season 2 and finished with the ascension of Augustus.
  3. I must be alone in that I like this season and I liked AFFC/ADWD. Both have their flaws but that's fine. I understand the necessity of making changes in the show, particularly because of the amount of material they have to fit into 10 episodes. Why send Jamie to Dorne? His river lands material is great and, with luck, he'll go there next season. I think the primary thing that sending him to Dorne does is it ties Dorne more closely to the main story. In the books, Dorne is almost a completely separate entity and it's a bit tough to get into it at first. That would be very weird to pull off in the show. Why send him with Bronn? Illn Payne is a mute for one thing. That might make the dialogue scenes a bit lumpy. Also the actor that plays him (Wilco Johnson) is currently battling pancreatic cancer. That might make his schedule a bit tight for filming. Stuff like that. As I've said before, There have been loads of accusations, mostly from book purists that its a poor adaptation because it differs too much from the books or "they aren't supposed to do that" or whatever. There have even been people accusing the show runners of creating fan fiction. IMO, if that's what people really think about book-to-screen adaptations, get ready for a lifetime of disappointment. I for one, like many of the changes. At this point, who knows what's going to happen next?
  4. HBO's "Rome" (one of my favorite shows) had this same feature.One episode they're in Greece, the next they're in Egypt, the next they're back in Rome. They compressed events that happen over the course of years to what seems like days. Just go with it. I'm perfectly willing to assume that it took Mel a day or two of hard riding to get back to the wall.
  5. Oh, fine. Fuck, whatever. He's a hack because after producing fifty episodes of an incredibly complex, multi-threaded story, in one interview he describes an event that happened in season 4 but confused it in an utterly trivial way with a similar event in season 2 and no one caught the flub before it aired. We, as fans of ASOIF should immediately start an online petition to compell Beniof to retract or correct that statement or HBO should fire him from the show immediately. At the very least, they should issue a sincere apology. Or, I can just go get a beer. That would be nice too.
  6. Maybe Beniof just misspoke. Maybe he was confusing one scene with another. Are we really getting uptight about this?
  7. WTF? You watched it? And you missed the people tied to stakes and the guy screaming "Sire, I served you well!" as one of Stannis' men is lighting the pye underneath him?
  8. Stannis is in the north at the end of the last book. Brienne is in the Riverlands. 1. I liked this season. Fans and critics are entitled to their opinions, but they are just that. 2. Yeah, total hacks. https://youtu.be/xcZG6fIUMqg
  9. I understand completely. I was actually partly agreeing with you. "If the pink letter is true." We know (or can be fairly certain) the pink letter is at least a partial fabrication. We suspect that the pink letter is a complete fabrication and possibly not authored by who it claims to be. We can also be fairly certain that Stannis is still alive because of TWOW chapter that was released, unless that chapter takes place before the events at the end of ADWD. Did D&D say "Stannis burns Shireen" or "Shireen gets burned" in the books? That's not completely clear.
  10. 1. There is no pink letter in the show. 2. attempting to tease out future plot lines in the books based on events in the show is a waste of time. I can't wait for next season when the material will be almost entirely new (depending on when twow is published).
  11. Maybe he's not dead in the books. Maybe he burns her in the middle of the book and dies at the end. Seriously?
  12. Right, because book Stannis is such a nice guy. The one that killed his brother, burned to death his brother-in-law, and was about to burn to death his nephew (Shireen's playmate) until Davos scuttled those plans.
  13. There's a lot of really tedious chatter on these boards that HBO are doing it wrong because they leave out this or that or they tweak this or that or they include some stuff at the expense of of other stuff or whatever. There are even those that like to accuse the show runners of creating "fan fiction", or tiresome conversations about "He didn't say ghost". or whatever. All I have to say is, if that's the way you demand literary adaptations in cinema or TV are supposed to work, then be prepared for a lifetime of disappointment. As much as I would have like to have seen Jamie's sojourn through the river lands, (the biggest change IMO), I have no problem with the change they made and I understand why they made it. That's just about the biggest change I can think of this season. It might not be their best, but I enjoyed this season. Oh, and Benjen is not coming back. Get over it.
  14. Fantastic episode. "Nice to see the end of the world is working out for someone."
  15. Wun Wun don't need no stinking boat! Brilliant episode.
  16. The scale is insufficient. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Spinal_Tap_-_Up_to_Eleven.jpg
  17. Don't have Tyrion become the savior of KL only to have him fall from grace later. Don't have Cat say "We'll kill them all" in season 1 only have her life fall apart and cut her throat later. Don't have Robb kicking southron arse all over the river lands just to kill him off at a wedding. Don't make Oberyn a charismatic, likable kick ass character just to crush his skull. Don't capture Jamie Lannister just to cut him loose. Jesus, it's like unless a characters story is a continuous, uninterrupted, unidirectional progression, there's just "no way".
  18. Huh, ASOIAF TV adaptation that subverts your expectations? Who ever heard of such a thing?
  19. A sacrifice to the lord of light. "There is power in King's blood." Yeah, that's an awfully obvious thread to just leave hanging. That situation will come to a head soon I think.
  20. Doing the Winterfell scenes anything like ADWD depicts would be an entire season unto itself. They are condensing an incredible amount of material into just ten hours of TV. I haven't agreed with all of their editorial decisions, but all in all, I'm enjoying the season. Snapping Theon out of his Reek persona needs to take time or it will seem incredibly contrived. Also, anything other than what we saw last night would have a segment of the fandom howling "See?!? Those bastards are torturing Sansa for the sake of Theon's character arc!!!" Theon is always going to be a figure of simultaneous sympathy and hatred. That reminds me: Mentioned this once before but I think it got lost in the flurry of comments last night. On the previous show thread there were several commenters that were making claims that Sansa's character would be so mishandled that within a few episodes she'd forget her wedding night trauma and by the end of the season she'd live "happily ever after". There were others who were screaming that they had in fact turned her into Jeyne and she's just there to develop Theon's character. After last night, does anyone think this is still the case?
  21. While a lot of GOT actors have been recognized for their performances, Alfie Allen is consistently underrated as Theon/Reek IMO.
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