Deadlines? What Deadlines?

Gee, if only there was some kind of system where some people watch the movie and give it a number or a letter grade that corresponds to an age group or something… When I was like, five? Maybe six? I saw Alec Guinness cut off a guys arm in a bar fight. A fantasy film with no nudity, little to no profanity, and no drug references. The kids can handle it.

Golly, for a movie that "isn't about anything", it sure is generating a hell of a lot of discussion. To be perfectly clear, when I said, "I honestly don’t know what to make of it... I'm not exactly sure what it was trying to do...", that may well be a limitation in me, not a fault with the film. I think @mormont's take is pretty good.

Wasn’t there an order shortly after forbidding US military people from publicly criticizing the bombings? Because that would be a distortion too.

Good answer. Hero's Journey.

Famous people. This is something i’ve been thinking about since I wrote a report on the bombings for school a while back. It’s the line from the Oppenheimer movie, “They won’t understand it until they’ve used it”. How does history play out if they don’t drop the bomb on Japan? What if the Korean War comes along and they have an arsenal of weapons that no one is really talking about yet because the true destructive power of these things isn’t part of the public consciousness?

They may have left it untouched in the first place to keep it on the target list for the bomb. As you say, the argument from military necessity is feeble. But it could still have been part of their thinking in July of 1945. The island hopping campaign was horrifying. No one was happy about the thought of putting boots on the ground in Japan.

Yeah, you're not wrong. Then again, I don't get my information from facebook clickbait so what do I know? What I was talking about is whether or not to use the knowledge gleaned from grotesque human experiments. On the one hand, the knowledge exists. It will never not exist. It can help people. On the other hand, Nazis. The Americans would never admit to dropping the bomb to awe the Soviets but, yeah, that was probably part of it. Also likely a desire to end the war before the Soviets got too close to the home islands. ETA: Since Soviet archives have opened up, we now know with certainty that Japan was trying to convince the Soviets to act as mediator in peace talks with the USA; starting no later than January of 1945. Unbeknownst to them, The Soviets were quietly moving troops to the asian mainland after Germany surrendered. The Russian declaration must have come as a massive shock to them.

Germany too. A lot of what we know about treating hypothermia came from Nazi experiments on living prisoners. Morally, it’s a shit sandwich.

Crassus was a “Marcus”. … maybe that’s why.

The bombing is a controversial topic, especially considering: 1. The day before Nagasaki, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan, which terrified the Japanese. 2. The invasion of the home islands was scheduled for early November; 3 months after the bombs were dropped. Given the state of their military in the summer of 1945 and the fact that they were the only axis country left standing, a lot could have happened in that 3 months. What isn’t controversial is that Leslie Groves had an opinion on Truman and the bomb: Le May, a guy who had no problem with dropping bombs on cities, was skeptical of the bombings’ impact on the Japanese surrender. He’d already bombed the shit out of most of that country anyway.

In fairness, the Marshall Plan passed the senate and house with veto proof majorities. Whether he favoured it or not he kinda had to sign it. In terms of blunders, his attitude toward the Soviets would be a big one. He kind of set the tone early for what would become the second red scare and the Cold War in general. Somewhat less belligerence early on would have saved a lot of aggravation later. I think later in life he may have realized this. He also seriously under estimated the Soviets ability to develop an atomic bomb, which contributed to the above. And this. Somewhat obscure but still. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngstown_Sheet_%26_Tube_Co._v._Sawyer

Not so much when you account for ticket price inflation. But yeah, still pretty amazing, especially when you consider that the films you mention both benefitted from a pg-13 rating.

You know, given the relative infection and mortality rates of unvaccinated and vaccinated, (what I suspect) the placement on the political spectrum for the people who fall into those two groups, and how age factors into both… over a few years… this noise has to have measurable effects in election outcomes.

I finally saw the Barbie movie. I honestly don’t know what to make of it. It’s definitely very funny. Very well made. Great performances (Ryan Gosling is hilarious). I enjoyed it a lot. Im not exactly sure what it was trying to do, if it was doing anything at all. Is it criticizing vulgar consumerism while embracing it at the same time? Is it acknowledging how relevant and irrelevant Barbie is at the same time? Does it work as dystopian sci-fi (yes). And, “film bros”? Really? Are we still cracking that old chestnut? What year is it again? On the bright side, contrary to what the social media commentariat have been warning me about, my genitals are unaffected. I’m not lining up to have a bar code stamped on my forehead by my new feminist overlord. I’m still mostly heterosexual*, and I still like “football and porno and books about war”. Body hair too. Not a single empty follicle on Deadlines’ luxurious, hairy chest. Sadly, the same can be said of his back… *Ryan Gosling’s abs. C’mon, people. No one’s that straight.

"Nature's way of healing." I have to agree with Denis. I thought this film would be successful, but if you told me it would do Dr Strange MoM moneys, I'd have said you were nuts. That's mean. You're being mean. They can both have some moneys.

This is mostly spoilers so I dunno, look away? Are we doing tags? Do we care? Fuck it I'm doing tags. Episode 6: I am now officially (thumb and index finger shape) this close to giving up on this show. Star Destroyers and lightsabers are cool and all but they just don't give me the dopamine hit they once did. And so much of it is fucking excruciating. Then again, Wes Chatham's Storm Trooper Armor is pretty cool and maybe there's some magical Jedi goo-ga on this planet*, so I'll tune in until someone starts posting highlights on youtube. *Which isn't "Tat-two-ine", thank you very much.

I wouldn't know. But if that's the case, I'm sure there's a top secret and really boring reason why it's designed that way.

Yeah, it could have been bad. The fuel alone… If the reports are accurate, the plane came down about 70 miles from where the pilot ejected. It was definitely in the air for a few minutes. This wouldn’t have been a problem if the plane wasn’t invisible.

No worries. I’m just getting very very intolerant with this anti-vax nonsense.

They found it. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66850422.amp Interesting:

Maybe Trump was right after all. So, the guy punched out and the thing just kept going?

No. They’re getting dumber. I’m not a person that looks back with rose coloured glasses. Most people confuse nostalgia for “the good old days” with nostalgia for their youth. Things were simpler back then because *they* were simpler back then. This is not that. Use your hypothetical Time Machine to go back to 1990. Go to a dog park and as the dog owners if they’re concerned about vaccines and canine autism. Half of them would slap you silly for mouth words that confuse and infuriate them.

God damn it. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4177294-majority-of-us-dog-owners-now-skeptical-of-vaccines-including-for-rabies-study/amp/

I said from *my* Twitter account. You can’t because there isn’t one. You seem sure that I’m a Twitter user because you apparently don’t understand how embedded links work. I also post links from YouTube as well. Guess what? No YouTube channel. Another observation: you seem fond of a form of argumentation that boils down to, “Gee, you sure like to ‘X’ a lot”. I got news for you; that’s not the own you think it is.

Fine. Since you have it all figured out and have twice now called me a liar, show me one example of me posting something on this thread that came from my Twitter account, Genius. Once again you get it wrong. Color me surprised.